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[Roachor]

It just increases the range and decreases the ap cost, it's still less powerful than a lot of bgs and no one uses the plasma rifle due to its short range. EW needs a real end game weapon.

[Michaelh139]

>.>  Lazer builds have the advantage of being able to literally FUCK anything in the ass that doesn't have anything at or above metal armor....

But I guess in hardcore no BK pvp, yeah it does need something.

[GroeneAppel]

>.>  Lazer builds have the advantage of being able to literally FUCK anything in the ass that doesn't have anything at or above metal armor....

But I guess in hardcore no BK pvp, yeah it does need something.

Yeah but ussualy people wear metal in PvP making a EW sniper pretty usseles exept for crippling.

[Quentin Lang]

>.>  Lazer builds have the advantage of being able to literally FUCK anything in the ass that doesn't have anything at or above metal armor....

But I guess in hardcore no BK pvp, yeah it does need something.

And thats the POINT. Ive barely ever seen someone use PLASMA rifle in combat apart from putting it on mercs. Right now, LASER rifle is pretty much the endgame weapon of EW, is used nearly on every EW sniper char, while PLASMA should theoretically be times better and wich doesnt get used alot. EW needs some fixing in my opinion. Plasma weapons need a buff, or the TBR in the game, and as all EW is based only on snipers, why not add gatling laser wich would be based on SE cells, not MFC.

Oh, and little edit: ''... destroy anything that doesnt have metal armor''.
garblgarblgarblRAAAAGE....


When will you learn, that theres a specific crit that BYPASSES ARMORS and wich for laser weapons happens really often. Really often. But i doubt you'l understand that.

[Solar]

Yeah but ussualy people wear metal in PvP making a EW sniper pretty usseles exept for crippling.

Incorrectamundo. Average damage from a sniper build is so close to the Sniper Rifle vs Metal Mk II that I'm going to be lazy and call it the same. This Metal-vs-Laser-is-useless thing is a myth.

On the closed beta test where we had all the PvP gangs the second most popular weapon (based upon kills) was the Plasma Rifle.

[Quentin Lang]

This Metal-vs-Laser-is-useless thing is a myth.

Thats what i meant, but apparently some people aint too bright around here to understand it. MA/Tesla would be godlike against gatling laser, but laser rifle? Armor bypass.
That actually amazes me, i cant even count how many times i've tried to bore this into people minds...

[Solar]

I've gone to the extent of working out the average damage when factoring in criticals to prove it, took a while but it was enlightening at the end of it

[Quentin Lang]

I've gone to the extent of working out the average damage when factoring in criticals to prove it, took a while but it was enlightening at the end of it

But what about gatling laser? So far everything energy guns got are sniper weapons. Could we hope that you make gatling laser craftable and make it use SECs? Probably with damage nerf.
If Bozar aint craftable due its powerfulness, i guess gatling laser cant be crafted due to its uselessness. I mean, it eats 10 MFCs and deals crap damage compared to laser or plasma rifle 10 shots.

[Solar]

I never considered it a weapon that should've been on ther ganme, its only because its not been edited out of encounters that it remains.

It seems to me like something that should be Enclave only, so perhaps it will make an appearance there at some point. It would obviously need to be a bit better to give it the wow! factor.

[marager]

actually, gutling laser is very usefull, just know your enemys
you and your sniper friends can suck it if your in distance of my super mutie mercs avenger, and they shot max distance when leveled.
while gatling laser takes good care of muties and actually i wouldnt wanna put them against a gatling laser apponent

[Roachor]

You guys are all way off topic here

[maszrum]

psycho + turboplasma + brof = its to powerful ;o

[Roachor]

psycho + turboplasma + brof = its to powerful ;o

Lol maybe if you said jet i could take you seriously, you would be using it like a melee weapon with 1 pe. All turbo does is increase range and decrease ap cost by 1, plasma nades still are faster to throw and do more damage and with 1 pe have more range.

[Crazy]

Plasma nades don't do eye critical bypass, knock down, knockout, blinded at 172 damage.

[Sephis]

Plasma nades don't do eye critical bypass, knock down, knockout, blinded at 172 damage.

your right, because they can do more then that in the same amount of time. (and splash)