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[kraskish]

Hello, after the wipe I see that there are literaly no people wearing armors (Yes I live in NCR) as opposed to what it was before wipe some months ago. I happen to be an armorer lvl 2 now and I happen to see the cause ... and I cant get it... seriously wtf? leather armor and leather armor mk2 are harder to make than metal armor mk 2...

 For leather armor mk2 you need to get golden gecko pelts from 1 area gecko - shit for you if you live anywhere else, for fiber you need to go around klamath (if you live near gecko, afiak - dont live there) and then to upgrade to leather armor mk 2 you need additional 2 skins, that is 6 golden gecko skins total for leather armor mk2.

Now for metal armor mk 2 you just need to go to hq mine and hit 3 times and done, you gathered materials for a better armor with less effort! Nicely done! I see the intention of devs to power up the people who are keen on pvp pk battles and depreciate the loners. But seriously Metal Armor when you put in on looks a bit scrappy, its not perfect, yet now it demands 4 good metal parts, I concur - scrappy look scrappy materials - I believe the intent behind this was the science requirement for armorer to mine it, ok you could change that and have a requirement of 80% science for MA craft but for goods sake, the change was bad, Id like to see MA recipe more sophisticated (20MP + 3Alloy + 5flint) thats an effort comparable to as the leather armor now or whatever, I just dont like the idea that now all of a sudden the discrepancy between better organised players and casual players have increased so much.

I propose MA to be available to be crafted with simple minerals not hq and MA mk2 to be enhanced by Good Metal Parts. For some people theres no choice as to wear shitty Combat leather jacket or Leather Armor mk 2...

[Wichura]

For leather armor mk2 you need to get golden gecko pelts from 1 area gecko - shit for you if you live anywhere else, for fiber you need to go around klamath (if you live near gecko, afiak - dont live there)

There is many places to get golden gecko pelts, also fibers can be found almost anywhere.

[kraskish]

There is many places to get golden gecko pelts, also fibers can be found almost anywhere.

Ok, but wont you agree that one element 4hq iron ore - 20 mins 4hits with a hammer is easier than going across the map for 6 golden gecko fibers and gecko pelt and 2 fibers? The MA recipe is just too plain ...

[Wichura]

It's not that easy to get HQ Ore.

[vedaras]

first of all i have no problem at all to make leather armor mk2 or combat jackets they are easy, but i have to agree that metal armor recipe is too easy now, you can craft every metal mk2 in 7 minutes, that is totally not right.

[Mr Feltzer]

Naw, I LOVE The Look of Leather Armour I must Say, It Should be Easier.
metal armour is also good as it is..

[Alvarez]

I think the effort/effect balance for MAs and leather armors is really ridicolous, too, but hey - i'd go rather risk my life once in Redding for a armor than spending time and ammo, which i have to craft on search for Geckos.

What is wasted more than everything else in Wasteland? The time. And perhaps blueshirts, too.

[kraskish]

I think the effort/effect balance for MAs and leather armors is really ridicolous, too, but hey - i'd go rather risk my life once in Redding for a armor than spending time and ammo, which i have to craft on search for Geckos.

What is wasted more than everything else in Wasteland? The time. And perhaps blueshirts, too.

Thats my point. Whats more I dunno exactly all areas of golden geckos but when Id hunt near gecko or klamath Id fear crazies or whatever bandits there. While going to redding with only a hammer hitting 4 times is really convenient for me... now the armors for people who fear pking is even worse... no one runs in armors anymore. Ok MA mk2 should require good metal parts as it used in TC and pvp but MA is rather basic... I mean if you dont want to risk to get MA or cant craft it youll suck throught the game and fear a rogue with mauser the availability now is just not right...

[vedaras]

I think the effort/effect balance for MAs and leather armors is really ridicolous, too, but hey - i'd go rather risk my life once in Redding for a armor than spending time and ammo, which i have to craft on search for Geckos.

What is wasted more than everything else in Wasteland? The time. And perhaps blueshirts, too.

well i find it easy to take my 5 mercs with super hammers and gove above gecko and pick like 20 golden gecko pelts from one fight without wasting a single bullet on them ^^ so being creative sometimes helps

still metal armor is too easy to be crafted :>

[kraskish]

well i find it easy to take my 5 mercs with super hammers and gove above gecko and pick like 20 golden gecko pelts from one fight without wasting a single bullet on them ^^ so being creative sometimes helps

still metal armor is too easy to be crafted :>

Ok youre very familiar with the game. I dont have anything to the effort spend on Leather Armor crafting, well maybe like it was before.. more gecko pelts and 2 golden gecko or 1 for basic and 1 for upgrade. The change made the armors unavailable and made the gap between elite players and casual/beginners bigger.

Now that there are some badass encounters nefed too much as I continuously battle here on forum, new people to fonline will get their ass kicked a lot until they will realise that they will need an alt who will make MA mk2 for them because, to be honest, as the requirements for MA are hq and hq is dangerous no one sells their MAs resulting that there are no player traders which played a fundamental part of the economy for the beginning/casual players.

To be honest, in NCR you cant buy almost any armor... rarely one appears but is quickly taken, guns are always there, but armors not, because of MAs big requirements. If there were lower for MA (not mk2) people would craft them making them buyable and sell their worse armors. Now they keep it, because wasteland is harsh and theres roughly a choice of 2 armors for beginners.

[vedaras]

To be honest, in NCR

thats your problem mate, try vc amenities b, try sf tanker male merchant, or hub in jacob you can almost always buy even ba in there.

[kraskish]

thats your problem mate, try vc amenities b, try sf tanker male merchant, or hub in jacob you can almost always buy even ba in there.

Ok true, but a lot of people live in NCR, some people get a grip fast and travel around fast, others dont. Its not my only problem, as a matter of fact I craft my own armor... once I saw the recipe I thought how unfair and plain it is... Im fighting like robbin hood now, give more to the poor!

[vedaras]

Ok true, but a lot of people live in NCR, some people get a grip fast and travel around fast, others dont. Its not my only problem, as a matter of fact I craft my own armor... once I saw the recipe I thought how unfair and plain it is... Im fighting like robbin hood now, give more to the poor!

well you werent forced to live in there and i see this situation as your own problem if you still do, you can move elswhere any time :>

[kraskish]

well you werent forced to live in there and i see this situation as your own problem if you still do, you can move elswhere any time :>

Youre trollin? I just said Im not speaking for myself/whining I said Im fine with NCR I craft, live and have my friends there :>.

[vedaras]

Youre trollin? I just said Im not speaking for myself/whining I said Im fine with NCR I craft, live and have my friends there :>.

so that should mean that you are fine to travel to gecko or klamath to kill golden geckos etc too :>