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Npc's and their critical chance.

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Surf:
No offense, really, but sometimes I can understand some people saying that they "hate" NCR.  :-\
Many people think this is the "starter town" which it is not. There is no "starter town". Even in the nearer surrounding there are other towns offering the same possibilities as NCR. But, yeh...


--- Quote from: kraskish on June 12, 2010, 05:39:22 pm ---I dont know if you were reading my post before. Not everyone knows about this forum. And its not a national tragedy because you can avoid some encounters in some places, my only remark is that they're badly placed. I dont want to fight them sometimes I go beyond NCR and all of a sudden rogues with AR burst or marauders burst or 2 shots per round + crit its enough for me to get nearly killed 78hp (lvl 9 ok but still)

Of course all the beginners or crafters wear mid tier for crafting/mining/ hunting scorpions bearing in mind NCR is a startplace for many people.
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As said above, NCR is not the only town to live. Of course in the surrounding area of other towns also Robbers, Marauders etc. dwell and it's just natural. Some outlaws are always waiting at the outskirts of populated towns, it happens even in Real Life too. So I don't see a "badly placed" here.


--- Quote from: kraskish on June 12, 2010, 05:39:22 pm ---PvE when you think of creatures is done well, humanoids however are badass there, where they shouldnt like NCR
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Most of the creatures are way too easy to kill, even with lower levels. (see the easily killable molerats with almost every eyeshot an instakill etc.) And why should NPC humans be so much weaker then Player Character? As said, they aren't just canon fodder.

kraskish:

--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 05:56:13 pm ---No offense, really, but sometimes I can understand some people saying that they "hate" NCR.  :-\
Many people think this is the "starter town" which it is not. There is no "starter town". Even in the nearer surrounding there are other towns offering the same possibilities as NCR. But, yeh...

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The thing is people start from somewhere. Ok, if there should be an easy area Id say NCR. why? it has the most players. Think. Players who are human, invite friends whatever. Guess what? Most of them are in NCR! Yep, even if you deny this and say that should prepare for harsheness of wasteland theres one thing you forgot, namely, supposingly they're starting in NCR, they try to get their first 10 brahmin hides, then comes mining. Of course during that they're pked a lot around the NCR because of number of players. OK. You cant change that. Just sometimes when they exp. on scorpions, they can encounter marauders which in my experience can appear all over around NCR, well bad for them PWNT again. Too high hp, range + crits.

I see that your point youd like to see the game without any new players at all? Because while my char is lvl 9 which is decent, I get angry, and reading this post not only me. As someone said (think Ved) the marauders were balanced well before because you could fight them back (they were running to you so you could escape without losses).

Groene Appel said that they are not worth the effort to kill them. Yep, as a matter of fact, bearing in mind their vicinity to NCR "beginner" area, mixing them with pks and those marauders youre pretty owned by the system at the start! Not telling that there should be some encouragement for the new players. Oh we dont want them... The idea is to place them somewhere else, maybe to the right side of the map above and below vault 15, and maybe introducing some melee characters or spears like slavers in klamath. Molerats are ok, in fact they're far better - you can escape without attacking. My point is, however that marauders being badly placed are too strong for their occurrence now. If Id like to shot them it should be some more remote place. you can switch them with molerats if you ask me :P


--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 05:56:13 pm ---As said above, NCR is not the only town to live. Of course in the surrounding area of other towns also Robbers, Marauders etc. dwell and it's just natural. Some outlaws are always waiting at the outskirts of populated towns, it happens even in Real Life too. So I don't see a "badly placed" here.

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As above.


--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 05:56:13 pm ---Most of the creatures are way too easy to kill, even with lower levels. (see the easily killable molerats with almost every eyeshot an instakill etc.) And why should NPC humans be so much weaker then Player Character? As said, they aren't just canon fodder.

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Id like the easy killable molerats to be in a low level area which is somehow NCR. New players are weaker than everything. If someone says some NPC are too weak make some are as I said, maybe near vault 13 with some badass 200-300 hp :P SOme people will hunt them, like on BoS

Solar:
I've skipped most of the flame here, so this may have been said before, but this is probably due to getting them in a hard region. The difficulties of regions are currently leftover from a time when these played no role in NPC strength, so NPC dificulty can be quite random around the map for the time being.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2010, 06:30:18 pm ---I've skipped most of the flame here, so this may have been said before, but this is probably due to getting them in a hard region. The difficulties of regions are currently leftover from a time when these played no role in NPC strength, so NPC dificulty can be quite random around the map for the time being.

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And when will this be fixed/updated?    *crosses fingers*

GroeneAppel:

--- Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2010, 06:30:18 pm ---I've skipped most of the flame here, so this may have been said before, but this is probably due to getting them in a hard region. The difficulties of regions are currently leftover from a time when these played no role in NPC strength, so NPC dificulty can be quite random around the map for the time being.

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Well that's good enough for me!
Is there an estimated time on when it will be updated? or will it be ready when it's ready?

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