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Npc's and their critical chance.
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:39:36 pm ---I don't play with a powerbuild, not even the slightest, it's just an average half crafter,combat,explorer character.
I am alone, don't have a strong gang which backs me up. And still I don't have problems with them. How it comes?
Those critters aren't just there to provide you loot and xp. One should give a good fight.
Only thing I can understand which is annoying when they have a too long range and you get shot while escaping.
Oh, and don't post "+1" posts, I delete them.
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1. How is it a mystery when "everyone else" is experiencing these problems so suddenly?
2. With your character the only thing you could kill are animals and maybe, just maybe, Raiders from my point of view.
3. Yeah ONE should give a good fight. Making them all invinsible isn't a good fight, its an a orgy. And we players got the wrong end of the stick. ( oh haha )
4. Yes their range is a bit insane... I'll agree there I guess.
5. What if I put +1 one and an itty bitty description? Like..................... "Awesome idea +1"?
Surf:
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on June 12, 2010, 04:45:40 pm ---1. How is it a mystery when "everyone else" is experiencing these problems so suddenly?
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I barely see that "everyone else" has these problems here.
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on June 12, 2010, 04:45:40 pm ---2. With your character the only thing you could kill are animals and maybe, just maybe, Raiders from my point of view.
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Not true. If equipped with mid tier stuff it isn't that much of a problem. Ofcourse it's no powerbuild and I don't fight against muties or so, but I am fine with PvE.
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on June 12, 2010, 04:45:40 pm ---3. Yeah ONE should give a good fight. Making them all invinsible isn't a good fight, its an a orgy. And we players got the wrong end of the stick. ( oh haha )
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They aren't invisible.
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on June 12, 2010, 04:45:40 pm ---4. Yes their range is a bit insane... I'll agree there I guess.
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So is they're critical chance. It could be slight a bit lower, ok. But still - they aren't just cannon fodder, PvE should be same challenging as PvP. Only thing, which I said in the previous post also - one should have a chance to escape those encounters.
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on June 12, 2010, 04:45:40 pm ---5. What if I put +1 one and an itty bitty description? Like..................... "Awesome idea +1"?
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It doesn't change the fact that it's just a oneliner and adds nothing to the topic.
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:58:37 pm ---I barely see that "everyone else" has these problems here.
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You've looked at all the posts right? :/
--- Quote ---Not true. If equipped with mid tier stuff it isn't that much of a problem. Ofcourse it's no powerbuild and I don't fight against muties or so, but I am fine with PvE.
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I want to see you fight some Robbers.
--- Quote ---They aren't invisible.
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I used an s instead of a c, if you look closely enough its simply a spelling error. it still has the sound if you pronounce it.
i n v i n s i b l e i n i v i n c i b l e
--- Quote ---So is they're critical chance. It could be slight a bit lower, ok. But still - they aren't just cannon fodder, PvE should be same challenging as PvP. Only thing, which I said in the previous post also - one should have a chance to escape those encounters.
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At least have them aim somewhere else >.>. stop making us get knocked out with every shot its fucking impossible to beat them this way.
--- Quote ---It doesn't change the fact that it's just a oneliner and adds nothing to the topic.
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............... I don't see a poll, where are the polls?!?!?
GroeneAppel:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:39:36 pm ---I don't play with a powerbuild, not even the slightest, it's just an average half crafter,combat,explorer character.
I am alone, don't have a strong gang which backs me up. And still I don't have problems with them. How it comes?
Those critters aren't just there to provide you loot and xp. One should give a good fight.
Only thing I can understand which is annoying when they have a too long range and you get shot while escaping.
Oh, and don't post "+1" posts, I delete them.
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No offense, but that post is laughable.
Alright sure npc's are meant to give a good fight. The problem is. you mention loot. What loot? They drop 80% smg's/Hunting rifles/pistols
Which are worth what? 100-200 caps in a shop? And the xp? they give you what? 80-120 xp? Instead of risking your life. Go to brahmin square near NCR. encounter a pack of brahmin and get the same loot and xp without risking your life and a fight which lasts a less than 2 minutes.
The fun thing is. They are still easy to kill for powerbuilds or people with some caps to spend on gear with a few friends. Instead of buffing raiders which low level people/non PB train on.
Buff the good stuff instead. Being a lvl21 PB is actually boring since there is no challenge exept PvP and TC.
Buff those high tier NPC's. It doesn't have to be in form of hp.
A quick example. How does one kill a BoS patrol? simple shoot their arms. and voila no weapon. How does one solve this? Simple give them a ripper/.223 pistol as backup. now you have to cripple both arms!
To much loot? no, because they are more difficult to kill and thus should give a bigger reward.
There are many small things which could improve PvE so much really.
kraskish:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:58:37 pm ---I barely see that "everyone else" has these problems here.
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I dont know if you were reading my post before. Not everyone knows about this forum. And its not a national tragedy because you can avoid some encounters in some places, my only remark is that they're badly placed. I dont want to fight them sometimes I go beyond NCR and all of a sudden rogues with AR burst or marauders burst or 2 shots per round + crit its enough for me to get nearly killed 78hp (lvl 9 ok but still)
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:58:37 pm ---Not true. If equipped with mid tier stuff it isn't that much of a problem. Ofcourse it's no powerbuild and I don't fight against muties or so, but I am fine with PvE.
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Of course all the beginners or crafters wear mid tier for crafting/mining/ hunting scorpions bearing in mind NCR is a startplace for many people.
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:58:37 pm ---They aren't invisible.
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How about introducing some sneaking encounters for the people willing to survive more adventures?
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:58:37 pm ---So is they're critical chance. It could be slight a bit lower, ok. But still - they aren't just cannon fodder, PvE should be same challenging as PvP. Only thing, which I said in the previous post also - one should have a chance to escape those encounters.
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PvE when you think of creatures is done well, humanoids however are badass there, where they shouldnt like NCR
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:58:37 pm ---It doesn't change the fact that it's just a oneliner and adds nothing to the topic.
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I totally agreed with Mickelh139, zones would be good. Making badass humanoid encounters autoatacking you with a burst is just not appropriate when you hunt for scorpions (again NCR, but you wont tell everyone from NCR to leave)
I COUNTED 7 people for changes in this thread (concerning their str) 1 person for their loot change and 3 against changes of strenght. So tell me barelly youre in minority? wooooooot
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