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[Jeoshua]

Does that response include .223 no longer requiring HQ mats?  cause that's the big issue I think.

[Solar]

.308 would be for the hunting rifle, .223 for everything else. .308 wouldn't need hq materials.

[Wichura]

.308 would be for the hunting rifle, .223 for everything else. .308 wouldn't need hq materials.

Any stats for new ammo so far?

[Solar]

I'd imagine they'd just be the same as .223, no real need to move hunting rifles up or down.

[Wichura]

And how about materials and/or professions required?

[Solar]

I'd imagine somewhere in the region of 1 MP and 5 GP or so.

[kraskish]

I'd imagine somewhere in the region of 1 MP and 5 GP or so.

YEAH Thumbs up!

[Jeoshua]

Yay! The system works!

[Nice_Boat]

Solar - why don't you give Hunting Rifle .22 LR ammo or something like that? Or just go with 5mm? .308 is a VERY powerful round irl, having a less powerful weapon use it would make a situation which is already bad (I mean, the gun calibers in F2 were mostly bullsh*t) into something worse.

[Solar]

I dont really mind what its called to be honest

[Alvarez]

Thumbs up, Solar! 

But since the .223 pistol is a sawn-off Hunting Rifle (what is stated in the description), would there be a fixed description for it, like mention of modified chamber?

[gordulan]

actually, the .223 pistol is a converted hunting rifle, big difference man...

[Sheepify]

I'm wondering...

Why not introduce a lower-tier hunting rifle using different ammunition, and retain the .223 version as well?

If I recall correctly (that'll be a first), the ammo modifier alone would change their effectiveness without need for modification of the weapons.

I realize the devs stated that they do not wish to introduce new weapons, but I'm not sure this rule applies to this particular situation.

More options to suit whatever requirements somebody has.

Not really any personal preference (hell, I still run around with a 10mm and have problems getting caps to feed ammo for that ), just an option I noticed nobody mention.

[Alvarez]

actually, the .223 pistol is a converted hunting rifle, big difference man...

A .223 rifle modified and cut down to a pistol. This is a one-of-a-kind firearm, obviously made with love and skill.

Thanks for the remark, gordulan, i tend to oversimplify statements sometimes. ^_^

[Jeoshua]

I personally don't see a problem with the .223 pistol using the same ammo as the hunting rifle, no matter what it ends up being.  All I care about is being able to craft it with some ammo that doesn't require me to do a raid on a mine.