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[LagMaster]

but here comes a problem:the .223 pistol is using .223 ammo and you need a hunting rifle for it

[toothpix]

Make the Sniper Rifle use 7.62 ammo? .308 rounds that are mentioned in the description are basically your 7.62 rounds. And they seem to be more suitable for a military grade rifle..

[kraskish]

but here comes a problem:the .223 pistol is using .223 ammo and you need a hunting rifle for it

? I dont see a problem? Crafting of hunting riffle wouldnt change if the ammo was changed...

[Solar]

Make the Sniper Rifle use 7.62 ammo? .308 rounds that are mentioned in the description are basically your 7.62 rounds. And they seem to be more suitable for a military grade rifle..

Well, both 7.62 and .223 would be restricted in their manufacture in different ways. 7.62 would be specific to NPC factions and .223 would be a more open crafting process.

I think just adding .308 might turn out to be the best solution.

[LagMaster]

whit this i agree:new ammo for lvl 1 crafter

[Quentin Lang]

I think just adding .308 might turn out to be the best solution.

Difference between .308 and 7.62 is the same as between 5.56 and .223. Nearly none apart ones for civil use, ones more military. Dimensions dont differ.

[Ziven]

? I dont see a problem? Crafting of hunting riffle wouldnt change if the ammo was changed...

because .223 pistol is end game pistol and would be garbage if it used 10mm

[Gunduz]

Difference between .308 and 7.62 is the same as between 5.56 and .223. Nearly none apart ones for civil use, ones more military. Dimensions dont differ.

http://www.303british.com/id36.html

According to this, there's actually a slight size difference. As with the 5.56 and .223. Not a huge difference, but enough to warrant a separate rifle.

[Vicious]

Actually gathering 223 on ghouls with a sniper character armed with a sniper rifle is very easy, you use 1-2 bullets per ghoul, actually when I go for ammo hunting on ghoul crazies i use 8-12 223 bullets to kill the AR and HR crazies, and don't bother with the rest carrying out of the encounter 30+ rounds +HR's and AR's.
Changing the ammo in the HR will generate a problem withe the 223 pistol like mentioned before, i suggest changing the ammo in HR to new 0.308 cal (springfield rifle?), and replace the HR required to craft 223 pistol with a sniper rifle, because, like mentioned before, it's an end game pistol, and HR is to easy to get.

[Gunduz]

Sorry, just realized that it's the sniper rifle, not the hunting rifle that was originally .308. Still, giving the hunting rifle .308 would solve all the problems and make it a feasible weapon.

[GroeneAppel]

Here comes a bump!

I really think this should be implented. The hunting rifle needs easier to get ammo. Before it turns into a viable weapon.

[Jeoshua]

Instead of restating my opinions on this issue, just click below
It's a bug.

(Hey, as long as we're linking to the other times this has been brought to the devs attention, I thought I might as well, right?)

[Jeoshua]

I see two possible solutions.

A> Change the Sniper Rifle to some other type of ammo and make .223 more available through crafting and purchase
B> Add new types of .223 ammo besides FMJ (like JHP and AP) and make some of them more easilly craftable.

[Sephis]

I think it's a shameful oversight that a low tier weapon requires HQ materials to make ammunation for it. I'm all for changing the hunting rifles ammo type to something else. we can then change the .223 ammo to be better balanced for the weapons that use it.

Early snipers should have an option right away just like big gunners do (flamer)

[Solar]

Well, both 7.62 and .223 would be restricted in their manufacture in different ways. 7.62 would be specific to NPC factions and .223 would be a more open crafting process.

I think just adding .308 might turn out to be the best solution.