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[kraskish]

Hello,
I believe that hunting riffle changed its purpose in fonline since couple of months, before .223 was well available the hunting riffle served as a cheap choice for snipers, but now theres no choice, if youre rich enough to buy .223 ammo you probably could buy sniper riffle as well. The point is that hunting riffle became obsolete while theres no low-tier ammo for low-tier weapon.

My suggestion is to make hunting riffle shooting for example 10mm AP. Its low-tier but more expensive than normal ammo as .223 ammo was before the changes to lvl3 gunsmith. What do you think?

[Flick]

I use hunting rifle , and I don't want to buy a sniper rifle. You may hunt for ghouls and have some 223 ammo, no need to buy them.

[kraskish]

Yes just wait a moment... until I will hunt for ghouls which are too badass for for 4 mid lvl people I will have something better, like assault riffle. Hunting riffle is for animals/cows. Slavers used them it was a common thing, now it is not.

[Surf]

Actually, those Crazies or Scavengers aren't that of a bad thing.
I even go to hunt with a friend ingame sometimes. I am unarmed (punch them with my fists with my average crafting character), he throws knifes. Just try it around Gecko in some urban areas where you can hide between buildings, take out the Assault Rifle/Hunting Rifle Ghouls first, the rest is easy.

But at the topic I have to agree, back 1 wipe I used the hunting rifle pretty often. Now I just use the Sniper Rifle, because if I have the money to buy some .223 in a amount to go kill a few things, I also have the money to buy a Sniper Rifle, isntead a hunting rifle. The suggestion is good in my book.

[Ziven]

It's pretty stupid having the same ammo for a lvl 1 gun and end game weapons

[Gunduz]

I remember seeing somewhere that the gun used to shoot .308 bullets, but was converted to .223. Maybe an implementation of .308 bullets would fix this?

It just doesn't make sense that you can craft the gun but not the ammo. If you're hunting the ghouls for their ammo, you might as well just take their guns too.

Either way, there needs to be a lower tier option for snipers. BB guns are nearly useless, we can't craft pipe rifles (but even if we could they'd be just as useless), and the only option we have at the first profession level, we can't make ammo for.

So either give us .223 ammo at SG lvl 1 or give the hunting rifle a different ammunition type. Either one makes me happy.

[Solar]

Hm, I've been thinking this too. One one hand the LSW and Sniper should be hard to get ammo for, on the other Hunting rifle is the low tech sniper rifle. New ammo for the Hunting Rifle seems to be the obvious answer.

[vedaras]

isnt assault rifle that kinda a rifle you are talking about ? :> I mean it is cheap replacement with cheap ammo ^^

[Solar]

AR is meant to be the option to give you the most flexability. You won't snipe as well as a sniper or burst as well as a burster, but you have access to both modes when the situation demands it.

Hunting rifle should just be easy to get and maintain.

[kraskish]

AR is meant to be the option to give you the most flexability. You won't snipe as well as a sniper or burst as well as a burster, but you have access to both modes when the situation demands it.

Hunting rifle should just be easy to get and maintain.

Yes, it was widely used both in F2 - slavers as it was in Fonline before, but now its just crazies. Ok I agree its powerfull but maybe could be made in 2 wariants? .223 that you get from ghouls and some cheaper 10mm PA version? the 2nd would have lesser damage because all of a sudden every would hunt with them. Something needs to be changed hehe wasteland changed to a western a bit :p (at least in low tier weapons)

[LagMaster]

well you changed the Hunting Rifle once(gave it 5 ammo,not 10)and you wanna change it again? is good the way it is

[kraskish]

well you changed the Hunting Rifle once(gave it 5 ammo,not 10)and you wanna change it again? is good the way it is

Ok, so without changes to the gun, but for the ammo type...

[Solar]

well you changed the Hunting Rifle once(gave it 5 ammo,not 10)and you wanna change it again? is good the way it is

It would remain exactly the same, except not share ammo with the sniper, .223 and LSW. Its ammo could then be easily available in encounters without making it easy to get ammo for the previously mentioned weapons.

[Ziven]

Well nato rounds although visually identical (what lsw uses) to .223 aren't the same, the lsw is clip fed where the rifle is hand loaded. Why not have .223 rounds and 5.56x45mm for the lsw? Have higher crafting requirements for the 5.56x45mm and possibly less ridiculous stats. .223 is the best ammo in the game and in bursts fire does crazy damage, maybe knock down the DR mod by half for 5.56x45mm.


Oh and for any complaints about it being "unfallouty" the lsw was from the late 60's and imho shouldn't be in game.

[STONEBALLS]

i think we really could use some different ammo for the Hunting rifle. I usually hunt ghouls near necropolis, u can say i hunt em alot, and im not using .233 ammo myself, but just feed my friends sniper with it, but atm i have around 80 .233 - collected in 3 days. I think that if i used hunting rifle, i would spend all of that on ghouls themselves.

Not sure bout the ammo but i fink that it should be the same lvl of tech as the rifle. .45?