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Author Topic: China as new superpower  (Read 7219 times)

Alvarez

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Re: China as new superpower
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2010, 01:32:00 pm »

China is communist ? That's new. Chinese people have a free economy, and the only aspect where they look like communists is the dictatorship they all live with. Though if you ask my opinion Staline's USSR wasn't communist, neither than Mao's China. True political communism is Trotsky's one, and has never been set up.

Communism is a ideal state anyway, with SOCIALISM as a (very long) development stage. A mirage to strive for.
About dictatorship and free economy: Do China mix political and economical issues?
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Ziven

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2010, 06:17:07 pm »

China is communist ? That's new. Chinese people have a free economy, and the only aspect where they look like communists is the dictatorship they all live with. Though if you ask my opinion Staline's USSR wasn't communist, neither than Mao's China. True political communism is Trotsky's one, and has never been set up.

I agree with you 100% there, it's a shame so many dictators have sullied the name of communism by twisting it to their own ends and making it unpalatable for populations.
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Re: China as new superpower
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2010, 03:23:11 pm »

''. Chinese people have a free economy, ''

Only in Hong Kong and second city.. Other citys and village is not free and people havent free television and thinks  ::)
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2010, 05:46:17 am »

That's quite funny (not  ;)) but Marks was right claiming that communism would firstly arise in the economically best developed countries. It's a process that we can clearly observe today in all of the western democracies. Here are 45 long-term goals declared by the Communist Party of the United States of America in 1963. Regardless of where you live, it's worth to read it and compare it with what we, as "free" societies, experience today. You may find some of these points quite shocking.
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2010, 10:31:19 am »

Communism is a ideal state anyway, with SOCIALISM as a (very long) development stage. A mirage to strive for.
About dictatorship and free economy: Do China mix political and economical issues?

actually, communism doesn't work at all. Everyone getting the same (or very close to eachother) wages system doesn't work. Think of it yourself.
A doctor earns as much as a waitress. Why would a person take the long and hard study of becoming a doctor if he can become a waitress and get the same wage?

It's the big problem with communism, people lack the motivation to study or work.

With the matter about China, they can't keep doing this for far longer. They are known to open a new Coal fueled power plant every week. And there are afcoarse all those scandals. And let's not forget the insane propaganda and censor. All those things are going to get back to China. Whetever it is by other countries or mother nature itself.
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Ziven

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2010, 10:55:48 am »

actually, communism doesn't work at all. Everyone getting the same (or very close to eachother) wages system doesn't work. Think of it yourself.
A doctor earns as much as a waitress. Why would a person take the long and hard study of becoming a doctor if he can become a waitress and get the same wage?

It's the big problem with communism, people lack the motivation to study or work.

With the matter about China, they can't keep doing this for far longer. They are known to open a new Coal fueled power plant every week. And there are afcoarse all those scandals. And let's not forget the insane propaganda and censor. All those things are going to get back to China. Whetever it is by other countries or mother nature itself.

cuba is communist and has the best doctors in the world
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Re: China as new superpower
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2010, 12:28:03 pm »

cuba is communist and has the best doctors in the world

And where did you hear that?
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2010, 07:03:59 pm »

And where did you hear that?

It's common knowledge, people come to cuba for medical care from all over the world.

"Despite a 50-year trade embargo by the United States and a post-Soviet collapse in international support, the impoverished nation has developed a world-class health care system. Average life expectancy is 77.5 years, compared to 78.1 years in the United States, and infant and child mortality rates match or beat our own. There’s one doctor for every 170 people, more than twice the per-capita U.S. average."

Read More http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/04/cuban-health-lessons/#ixzz0qNNcgaPN

"Cuba has a highly advanced biotechnology industry.  It is working on many important problems, such as finding a cure for AIDS.  However, the refusal of the US to allow Cuba to import many medicines it needs slows down research progress and hurts the local health care system."
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2010, 09:59:29 am »

China's new army isn't battle proven and its economy is based on half-slavery.
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Re: China as new superpower
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2010, 01:34:58 pm »

You do realize that cuba having more doctors per person than the US does not mean they are "better" doctors.
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Ziven

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2010, 06:42:33 pm »

You do realize that cuba having more doctors per person than the US does not mean they are "better" doctors.

They have some of the best doctors in the world and they set up hospitals in third world countries all around the world and do a lot for medical research considering the limited resources they have due to the embargo. But that is besides the point there is no dispute over whether they are good it's a known fact, hell Americans sneak into Cuba for medical care. They also don't have the problem in the states where all the doctors specialize to make the most money and there aren't any family doctors. There are motivators in life other than greed, people who go in to medicine generally want to help people (Not in American culture but there greed has been deified).

and they do it for 15$ a day
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