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Ziven

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China as new superpower
« on: June 02, 2010, 11:20:09 pm »

Communism sounded good on paper too.

China is the worlds new superpower
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 11:51:27 pm »

China is the worlds new superpower

Because they opened up to free trade, yes
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 11:55:43 pm »

Because they opened up to free trade, yes

yeah but this wont last very long, at the moment all the poison theyve been exporting in everything they put out is finally starting to catch up with them. like the cardboard in pills, the asbestos in the sheetrock that was sent to new orleans, the lead in the paint of the toys they manufacture, all in all china will be regulated out of its top spot, the only reason they make so much is because they use sub-par everything.
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 12:08:20 am »

yeah but this wont last very long, at the moment all the poison theyve been exporting in everything they put out is finally starting to catch up with them. like the cardboard in pills, the asbestos in the sheetrock that was sent to new orleans, the lead in the paint of the toys they manufacture, all in all china will be regulated out of its top spot, the only reason they make so much is because they use sub-par everything.
this.  I hope to fucking god.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 12:15:17 am »

I didnt really get the point of this, but
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like the cardboard in pills, the asbestos in the sheetrock that was sent to new orleans, the lead in the paint of the toys they manufacture
Yeah. This. Especially the last one. I recall having some scandal around where i live about lead and other heavy metals in baby toys from China.
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 12:19:02 am »

I didnt really get the point of this, butYeah. This. Especially the last one. I recall having some scandal around where i live about lead and other heavy metals in baby toys from China.
People say America was ruthless......  China is fucking psychotic.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 12:20:37 am »

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 12:24:17 am »

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Because they opened up to free trade, yes

It's more like free trade opened to them...
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 12:24:54 am »

China has the 2nd biggest economy, has been expanding while america and europes economies crumble and is in the middle of creating a middle class. America owes "As of May 26, 2010, the Total Public Debt Outstanding was 88.9% of GDP, approximately $13 trillion" "In May 2009, the US owed China $772 billion.". No one can compete with their wages as they have a content workforce (factory work is better than toiling in fields) who get's paid almost nothing, not to mention an insane population. Everything you buy is made in china. As for them being crazy, yeah their gov't is disgusting but they also have less people in prison per capita than the US and half the murder rate. Plus the US can't really claim any kind of moral high ground they are on the same level as most of the dictators/terrorists they go after they put there to begin with.
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 12:36:46 am »

they have less people in prison because most of the time people get executed.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 01:29:35 am »

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As of May 26, 2010, the Total Public Debt Outstanding was 88.9% of GDP
As long as they can sustain their level of activity, and maintain the thrust in their economy, it will turn out ok. Most developped countries have such rates anyway.
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"In May 2009, the US owed China $772 billion."
They owed about the same sum to Japan for years now... Anyway, that also makes China dependant of the US. No more US, no more money.

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Everything you buy is made in china.
Yep. But how many things invented in China are we (the western world?) using? Please don't tell me the black powder. That was ages ago.

Well anyway, no one is going to contest China ain't a military and economic superpower. But it still lack a lot of maturity before it can pretend to the same level as the US. And if China achieve this maturity (mainly with a numerous, educated middle class and democracy), well they wont be able to pay the same wages to their workers, thus losing economic competivity. Well, that's how I see it anyway. As long as the two superpowers don't make me live in a fallout shelter, I guess I will be happy.
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2010, 03:59:46 am »

I'm just saying china is on its way up while the post ww2 prosperity in the states has fallen apart and the country is in decline.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2010, 08:42:00 am »

Poland is new super nova ! :P
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 10:22:39 am »

Poland is new super nova ! :P

Poland can into space? Supernova is a arriving light from star which exploded millions of years ago, btw.

As for China, i heard that their primary objectives are logistical infrastructures and heavy industry, since Mao destroyed agriculture pretty much back then. And Chinese are learning very eagerly from the West.
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2010, 12:17:19 pm »

China is the worlds new superpower

China is communist ? That's new. Chinese people have a free economy, and the only aspect where they look like communists is the dictatorship they all live with. Though if you ask my opinion Staline's USSR wasn't communist, neither than Mao's China. True political communism is Trotsky's one, and has never been set up.
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