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Psycho, drugs in general

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Nice_Boat:
No. Psycho has at least one hard counter (massed bazooka for sure, arguably any crit-based weapon due to stun), is very expensive to make (something people somehow don't notice when talking about the mythical "big gangs" - because no, even we can't afford being pumped 24/7 and actually do so only for the big fights) and with the PE penalty makes you a human bullet others have to direct which, needless to say, requires "some" effort and player skill. Stop nerfing shit into oblivion. Stop suggesting nerfing shit into oblivion. Thanks in advance  ::)

GroeneAppel:

--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on May 20, 2010, 01:25:18 pm ---No. Psycho has at least one hard counter (massed bazooka for sure, arguably any crit-based weapon due to stun), is very expensive to make (something people somehow don't notice when talking about the mythical "big gangs" - because no, even we can't afford being pumped 24/7 and actually do so only for the big fights) and with the PE penalty makes you a human bullet others have to direct which, needless to say, requires "some" effort and player skill. Stop nerfing shit into oblivion. Stop suggesting nerfing shit into oblivion. Thanks in advance  ::)

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There is no nerfing shit into oblivion, it's balancing. OP has a good point with the fact that it's all about Tesla, the supposed to be superior armor isn't better at all.
For example, option 2 wouldnt make the drug usseles at all. The effect changes a bit, same with Toughness. Some thing toughness now is far better than it used to be.
Remember, it's a beta aswell. We need changes we need tests! stop whinning for every little change, try it first then whine!

Nice_Boat:

--- Quote from: GroeneAppel on May 20, 2010, 01:59:44 pm ---There is no nerfing shit into oblivion, it's balancing. OP has a good point with the fact that it's all about Tesla, the supposed to be superior armor isn't better at all.
For example, option 2 wouldnt make the drug usseles at all. The effect changes a bit, same with Toughness. Some thing toughness now is far better than it used to be.
Remember, it's a beta aswell. We need changes we need tests! stop whinning for every little change, try it first then whine!

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Try running Tesla without psycho, see what happens. Turning a drug that performs a very specific task into all-around defence booster that's so weak it's not even worth considering using it is not called balancing, it's called stupidity. OP has no point whatsoever due to his lack of comprehension for oh-so-many tactics available to deal with drug users. I don't need to try rubbish ideas, because I'm blessed with a gift called imagination, which leads me to a conclusion that eliminating the only "hard" advantage of something that has "hard" drawbacks and counters and replacing it with minor advantages that don't even come close to being equal will lead to the drug becoming useless.

And it's not even that, because while presenting his idea OP proves that he has no understanding of the dynamics of PvP whatsoever, because a) people generally don't use Tesla armor, b) psycho is not a staple PvP drug like jet and c) energy works just fine due to lolarmorbypass. How (aside from correct star alignment resulting in the prevalence of simple luck factor) can a suggestion based on misguided opinions be any good is beyond my comprehension.

Moreover, considering the fact that OP's idea is basically "I don't know how to handle it, psycho too strong" whine on his part I find it funny that you consider my lack of enthusiasm for it whining on my part.

Imprezobus:
sorry, dude, but first post is a nonsense
by taking drugs, you pay the price for the result
you can do more in specific task, loosing part of your universality
it is your own decision, and prices are big, still leaving a chance to be beaten
its a way of playing which already exist, instead of fuckin those people in their asses try to think out some new ways
i fully disagree with the suggestion

Midnight:
I think it's quite the opposite, to me psycho is quite bad, with 1PE not sure you can really aim at anything ...
The explode dam type is to me a nonsense, it should be a fire(50%)/norm(50%) but it's a base of the game so don't think it have to be changed.

Finally giving psycho a DR against all would be this time completly imba. EW would be crap against psycho users where it's actually one of their strength ... Not to mention BA users with psychos ...

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