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Combat medic - long range healing!
Sius:
Lordus you are angry if someone starts flame in your posts but when you do the same thing elsewhere its ok?
For those who voted NO: Please stop questioning technical side of the idea. When we are able to craft 100x needler ammo out of 5x advanced gunpowder and 1x metal parts then its OK with you. Even when ammo itself is not maid out of gunpowder or metal not even a little bit. We can make guns and armors out of junk and raw materials and thats OK with you. But when one suggest to put a purpose to something that is BY DEFAULT ALREADY IN GAME ONLY UNUSED, then you are against it cause its not real or its joke or whatever. Guys, really? ::)
Focus on what this could bring to the game. It can mean that medic can become viable class and good support in combat, turning medic profession from absolutely passive crafter into dangerous opponent. I think we all can agree on that medic should have their place in combat and this could provide it to them very easily with no extra difficult work required from devs. If you can come up with better idea that will not concern long range healing then share it. I would like to read anything about this since I kinda like medics/healers (former WoW Priest here ;) ). But please stop those bullshit wannabe arguments like "not Fallouty" or "if its for real then...". I could understand them in topics where someone wants to add alien blaster as craftable weapon or teleport phone booth to travel between towns but they are completely misplaced here.
Comment how this would affect the game in positive or negative way and as for the technical side - ignore it. Only thing that should be discussed about technical stuff with this idea is how it should be executed but trying to trash it just because you think its a joke or it does not fit in the game or its not real or anything is just dumb of you.
Lordus:
--- Quote from: Sius on May 12, 2010, 04:46:40 pm ---Lordus you are angry if someone starts flame in your posts but when you do the same thing elsewhere its ok?
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It is not flame, i just dont like this idea because it is absolutely not from Fallout world and sorry, it is ill-considered.
Everyone has armors (in PvP), fact, so how can i effectively heal someone by shooting stimpacks, if i have to bypass his armor?? If i use my own stimpack, i will inject it to place under the armor or to place where i have not armor (hand, near anckle,...). If i use stimpack to my teamate, i go close to him, i "move his amor" so i can use it.
But shooting stimpacks which will ignore the amor.. ::)
Well, tell me, what idea is dumber? SMG with armor broking ammunition possibility, or "miracle", armor bypassing stimpack?
--- Quote from: Sius on May 12, 2010, 04:46:40 pm --- Focus on what this could bring to the game.
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The game needs to "somehow" raise all SG (excpept sniper) PvP ability, not implementing nonsenses.
RavenousRat:
--- Quote from: Lordus on May 12, 2010, 06:07:20 pm --- It is not flame, i just dont like this idea because it is absolutely not from Fallout world and sorry, it is ill-considered.
Everyone has armors (in PvP), fact, so how can i effectively heal someone with shooted stimpacks, if i have to bypass his armor?? If i use my own stimpack, i will inject it to place under the armor or to place where i have not armor (hand, near anckle,...). If i use stimpack to my teamate, i go close to him, i "move his amor" so i can use it.
But shooting stimpacks which will ignore the amor.. ::)
Well, tell me, what idea is dumber? SMG with armor broking ammunition possibility, or "miracle", armor bypassing stimpack?
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Shooting at head/eye will deal damage, instead of healing.
Shooting at torso/groin will do nothing with non-crit shot, or heals low ammount of HP with critical.
Shooting at legs heals low ammoun of HP and normal at critical.
Shooting at hands heals always normal ammount of HP.
Lordus:
--- Quote from: RavenousRat on May 12, 2010, 06:12:40 pm ---Shooting at head/eye will deal damage, instead of healing.
Shooting at torso/groin will do nothing with non-crit shot, or heals low ammount of HP with critical.
Shooting at legs heals low ammoun of HP and normal at critical.
Shooting at hands heals always normal ammount of HP.
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Well, so if you shoot somebody to hand by stimpack, penetrating his hand, flesh, maybe bones, nerve, it will not harm him, just because you shoot to his hand. He will not lose his gun if you hit your hand nerve? You cant damage his artery?
For christ, if someone is applicating stimpack, he has to penetrate CAREFULY his BLOOD VESSEL with ACCURATE penetration depth. It is not easy to do this even if you are non moving and you need little experience with this. It is very hard, if you are traveling, i.e. in ambulance car, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to do on long distances.
I.e.: if you shooting tranquillizing dart to some wild animal, you have to aim for flesh, because the active drug gets into the blood circulation from flesh.. But the effect is not instantaneous, but you have to wait for a while. And there is always possibility that you will kill that animal, or criple him.
So i think that this idea has not nothing common with real world but but also nothing with Fallout.
RavenousRat:
--- Quote from: Lordus on May 12, 2010, 06:23:33 pm --- Well, so if you shoot somebody to hand by stimpack, penetrating his hand, flesh, maybe bones, nerve, it will not harm him, just because you shoot to his hand. He will not lose his gun if you hit your hand nerve? You cant damage his artery?
For christ, if someone is applicating stimpack, he has to penetrate CAREFULY his BLOOD VESSEL with ACCURATE penetration depth. It is not easy to do this even if you are non moving and you need little experience with this. It is very hard, if you are traveling, i.e. in ambulance car, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to do on long distances.
I.e.: if you shooting tranquillizing dart to some wild animal, you have to aim for flesh, because the active drug gets into the blood circulation from flesh.. But the effect is not instantaneous, but you have to wait for a while. And there is always possibility that you will kill that animal, or criple him.
So i think that this idea has not nothing common with real world but but also nothing with Fallout.
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Stimpaks don't have anything with common world too. It's almost the same as magic potions. Someone shoot your hand off, you used stimpak there, restored full HP (for example), and flesh grown back? It should work as DR only like novocaine, if you want realism, but it's Fallout, it works like magic potion and instantly revives your health, even if there're 30 bullets in your body.
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