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vilaz:

--- Quote from: baelzaron on May 20, 2010, 07:56:02 AM ---Straight damage comparison isn't fully justified because:

LR has 5 less range
LR requires 1 more STR
EW starts at a lower skill% then SG above 1 AGI (min/max +2%/-25%)
MFCs are more expensive/rare then .223
*EW shots have a "traceable animation"

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Those are actually heavy arguments

Last two which makes laser rifles almost useless in PvP.

EDIT: ow yeah I wanted to suggest, some EW weapons thread merging or something ^^ this is a looooot out of topic

Elmehdi:

--- Quote from: baelzaron on May 20, 2010, 07:56:02 AM ---Straight damage comparison isn't fully justified because:

LR has 5 less range
LR requires 1 more STR
EW starts at a lower skill% then SG above 1 AGI (min/max +2%/-25%)
MFCs are more expensive/rare then .223
*EW shots have a "traceable animation"

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.. more:
223 ammo substracts 20 from AC of your target (which results in extra accuracy with sniper/hunting rifle = less skill needed),
Laser rifle + MFC is much heavier than sniper rifle + 223.

Well, personally I play only SG, but I agree that EW should get some boost. Maybe introducing turbo plasma rifle would do the job..

Solar:
Very minor considerations indeed.

Laser rifle does more damage to every Armour type except Tesla (does less) and Metal Mk II (does about equal).

Weigh against this that it is slightly more difficult to hit with, where hitting is generally pretty easy for a decently made char and needs 1 more point in Str.

A worthwhile trade for +25% damage to CA? Of course.

EW are fine in comparison to SG.

Midnight:
Laser Rifle ignore psycho an Toughness and do 49 base damages on critical bypass (multiplie by 3 to 8 for final critt dams).
So if the guy have a Tesla ok you are screwed (you still do 0-3) , your only way to do something is critical bypass, but for a sniper, don't think it's that hard ...
On the other hand, even with a x3 critical you kill almost anybody 147 dam for the worst crit in the torso, i'd really like to do so, even only once per 10 shot ...

Maybe laser sniper should simply not use Finesse to avoid the 100dr (but anyway bypass ignore finesse ...), and this is maybe why you have issues, since apparently players don't know how finesse work (Atom fixed the minds on another topic about that)

Drakonis:

--- Quote from: Midnight on May 20, 2010, 03:17:05 PM ---Laser Rifle ignore psycho an Toughness and do 49 base damages on critical bypass (multiplie by 3 to 8 for final critt dams).
So if the guy have a Tesla ok you are screwed (you still do 0-3) , your only way to do something is critical bypass, but for a sniper, don't think it's that hard ...
On the other hand, even with a x3 critical you kill almost anybody 147 dam for the worst crit in the torso, i'd really like to do so, even only once per 10 shot ...

Maybe laser sniper should simply not use Finesse to avoid the 100dr (but anyway bypass ignore finesse ...), and this is maybe why you have issues, since apparently players don't know how finesse work (Atom fixed the minds on another topic about that)

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bypass does not ignore finesse

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