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What is Role Playing?
Nice_Boat:
The problem with roleplaying in FOnline is that FOnline is not really a roleplaying game. At best it's just a set of rules with an interface that isn't really suited for a real roleplaying session. Why? I'll try to explain.
The basic conditions of a decent roleplaying session are to have a) everyone willing to put some effort into getting "inside" his or her character, b) everyone being on more or less the same level of understanding the gameworld's lore and preferably c) gamemasters watching over all of the players and creating the atmosphere and the story. The obvious implication of this fact is that you need a clearly defined group of people you know and dedicated gamemasters willing to prepare each and every one of them to play (say what details are the most important for a given story, tell the most important stuff about the setting to the newcomers etc.).
Now, FOnline is an open game. That means that at least some people are going to miss a) and b) and there's not gonna be enough gamemasters to complete c). Does that mean that FOnline fails in the end? No, because it's not a roleplaying session, it's an MMORPG - a completely different medium. It uses a different set of tricks to create the immersion. It doesn't offer a story or a set of serious RPG veterans, but by it's very nature it forces gang members to engage in politics, solitary players to put a lot of effort in maintaining their equipment and expanding their influence etc. For an MMORPG, it's very postapocaliptic and falloutesque. If you want more immersion (and, consequently, less people behaving out of character), think of more gameplay-mechanics related things that'd force the players to act as their characters would act. Don't blame the people who enjoy the game in their own way, especially since even among pen and paper roleplayers there's a lot of different and mutually exclusive approches to playing the game of this kind.
Let's face it - the only possible way of creating something at least remotely resembling a real roleplaying session in FOnline would be to create closed servers for a very limited, carefully handpicked group of people with similiar tastes supervised by a large group (I'm talking at least 1 per 5 players) of dedicated GMs. Otherwise we're stuck with what we have, and honestly - what we have ain't half bad. Don't hate the game and the playerbase for what it is, just relax and try enjoying it the way most of us do. Looking for a real roleplaying experience here is just going to frustrate you - and using crude methods and verbal abuse to force a more roleplay-oriented approach on the entire playerbase is going to frustrate everyone else.
Aricvomit:
This coming from one of the heads of bbs :P . we all know your stance on roleplaying boat, the thing is they do implement things that immerse you into a character role, like being low intelligence when you speak in english it makes you sound like your an idiot, like replacing i for me and taking out words like the and and. so you end up with a sentence like me need meats.
Its actually forced me to think how a stupid guy would talk so i can get my point across to people. the thing is I dont think even if sepereate servers for roleplaying existed it would help the situation, players that like to have a little fun wth their game besides mindless slaughter shouldnt be shunted off to the negative zone, while of course the possiblility of getting attacked in the wasteland remains ever present thats part of the atmosphere and should remain part of the enviroment, it would shape how people act and respond, no one in the wasteland is going to be very trusting, everyone has to fight to stay alive and i think R.P's should reflect that.
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Aricvomit on January 05, 2010, 05:25:23 am ---This coming from one of the heads of bbs :P . we all know your stance on roleplaying boat
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I was speaking less as a BBS leader and more as a pen and paper roleplayer with a few years of gaming experience. The reasons why I think FOnline is an almost completely different thing are outlined above.
--- Quote from: Aricvomit on January 05, 2010, 05:25:23 am ---the thing is they do implement things that immerse you into a character role, like being low intelligence when you speak in english it makes you sound like your an idiot, like replacing i for me and taking out words like the and and. so you end up with a sentence like me need meats.
Its actually forced me to think how a stupid guy would talk so i can get my point across to people.
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And that's all good - such subtle details increase the immersion and of course should be implemented.
--- Quote from: Aricvomit on January 05, 2010, 05:25:23 am ---the thing is I dont think even if sepereate servers for roleplaying existed it would help the situation, players that like to have a little fun wth their game besides mindless slaughter shouldnt be shunted off to the negative zone, while of course the possiblility of getting attacked in the wasteland remains ever present thats part of the atmosphere and should remain part of the enviroment, it would shape how people act and respond, no one in the wasteland is going to be very trusting, everyone has to fight to stay alive and i think R.P's should reflect that.
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I wasn't talking about shunting anyone off to the negative zone, I was just saying that to have a "total" roleplay you need a closed and very limited playerbase. The only thing I was protesting was the elitism of the "true roleplayers" of this server - I think you're missing a thing or two about the nature of the game and expect something that simply won't happen. I'm not saying you shouldn't roleplay at all - just don't get angry if most of the people you meet don't.
Mr. White:
I didn't dare read through all the posts / pages, is there a lot of role playing going on in this? If so, that's great... I love role playing, 'been doing it for years now.
Izual:
Speaking about roleplay, there's a roleplay bar that opened in The Hub, that is now mostly a roleplay town. I suggest roleplayers reading these lines to come there, if server gets up someday =p
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