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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless

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vedaras:

--- Quote from: Solar on June 13, 2010, 11:25:31 AM ---Comparing two ranged weapons from adjacent hexes is rather pointless, especially when the unique trait of one of the weapons is that it fires like its next to the target, but from 16 hexes away.

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So ok we can now make a conclusion, from very close distance jackhammer is useless, from lets say 10-16 hexes jackhammer is weaker than other best bursting weapons but it can compete, and over 16 hexes its useless once again. So you want people to use weapon with which they will have chances in 6 hexes fight ?

Solar:
No, we can reach a few conclusions.

1. From adjacent hexes all burst weapons apart from Shotguns are really really good, to the point where no other weapon should be balanced to compete with this insane damage from range.
2. From 2-16 Hexes Jackhammers can compete with the best burst weapon. Ignoring character perks they will do slightly more damage to every armour type except for CA than an Avenger Minigun.
3. Jackhammers are effectively Avengers from 2-16 Hexes, but cost half as much and cost only about 25% per shot. They also have less of a strength requirement and cost 2 AP less per shot.

Nothing wrong with Jackhammers.

vedaras:
then i  can add that if you will remove all perks from game maybe someone will use that jackhammer...

Solar:
They're still perfectly fine at the moment.

Sniper build, armed with Sniper Rifle and Jackhammer. Same cost as an Avenger, probably have to carry less cost of ammo.

You can take all sniper perks for your sniper rifle, when they close in you switch to the Jackhammer and you do 70% of the damage (99.33% when you correct for AP requirements) of a BG build carryiing an Avenger who has used up 2 perks on BRD. You then do more criticals than the Avenger char, so in the end you probably come close in raw damage terms too.

50->17 hexes you Sniper him, 16->2 you Jackhammer him, 1 hex you run.


Not that a pure Jackhammer build isn't great at the moment too.

vedaras:
whats wrong with sniper rifle in close range? you still have same knockout chances i dont think that could prove useful :>

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