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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2010, 10:47:14 PM ---Nothing wrong with a deagle for certain builds, seems a lot of people don't realise how great Jackhammer damage is though.
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Against anything that doesn't have a shirt on.
--- Quote ---Oh well, their loss.
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Are you kidding? They be saving 5k everytime they don't buy one.
Solar:
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on June 12, 2010, 10:49:05 PM ---Against anything that doesn't have a shirt on.Are you kidding? They be saving 5k everytime they don't buy one.
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1. Against anything.
2. 5k for a weapon that does the same damage as a 10k one, so long as you can apply some tactics to use it.
vedaras:
Ok i decided to make 2 builds virtual fight. 2 identical builds fight meets near corner they have same reflexes shoot at same time etc. Both have 2x BROF, 2x Toughness and ba. First player is with jackhammer, second player is with avenger minigun.
So both players have 12/50% resistance for purposes of not to get lucky lets say they have 1 luck and wont get to fire a lucky burst.
They both have 10 ap, what means they both will fire 2 bursts. (even if we would count more ap, now jackhammer would need to reload so 10 makes sense here). So as they both fire 2 bursts, we will count only 1 in here to simplify calculations.
Jackhammer attacks result 5 bullets per burst all doing 18-29 damage what is 23.5+2 average damage from 2x bonus ranged damage perks. Shotgun shells have no impact on it, and bullets meet resistance and we have (23.5 - 12 +2) * 5 * 0.5 = 33.75 damage per burst.
Avenger with AP ammo. 40 bullets per burst all doing 8-11 damage what is 9.5 +2 average damage from 2x bonus ranged damage. AP ammo and resistance impact on damage results in:
((9.5 +2) * 2/3 - 12/4) * 40 * 0.85 = 158.(66) damage per burst.
Avenger with JHP ammo. 40 bullets per burst all doing 8-11 damage what is 9.5 +2 average damage from 2x bonus ranged damage. JHP ammo and resistance impact on damage results in:
((9.5+2) * 2 - 12) * 40 * 0. 15 = 66 damage per burst.
So i dont know about your tests or anything, but from pure fonline maths we can see that "one of the best damage dealing weapons" actually sucks harder then hard.
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2010, 11:00:41 PM ---1. Against anything.
2. 5k for a weapon that does the same damage as a 10k one, so long as you can apply some tactics to use it.
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*Drugs self to where 50% bodily fluid is a mix of jet, Psycho, and all the other drugs you can imagine*
How about now?
...no, not quite.
Surf:
Vedaras, you used Perks for it. Solar didn't use any Perks.
Your BRoF obviously raises the damage of your avenger, because it shoots more bullets per burst.
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