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Ammo slower to make, craftables harder to craft

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avv:

--- Quote from: Killy on April 11, 2010, 04:56:16 pm ---Lordus is right, players dont want to play for the whole days just to get something that can be lost in 10 sec - look here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wFIHmOkrwg    
starts at 0:45

so much wasted time, cooldowns, that can be lost in 10 sec, i dont want to spend 10 hours a day just to be able to fight a few times,
u say people had too much stuff, no matter what u do at the end of the day there will be people with tons of armors and other shit on the floor all u do is making them play gather and craft much longer than before

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Nice fight, very exciting. Dudes in CA's insert modoc from the east in line formation only to encounter enemy that enters from same place a moment later  :P
Too bad it was so quickly over.

But the problem isn't necessarily the cooldowns. You say that it takes too long to get "pvp stuff". Well that's because the game encourages pvp stuff to be goddamn super powered plasma rifles and imba top notch combat armors. The shops are full of stuff that could be used for pvp but players don't want to use it because then they wouldn't stand a chance. There's hundreds of shotguns, pistols and rifles in the shops, nothing wrong with them except that only best of the best is good enough. It would be much more realistic, and hell, even cooler if the lower tier equipments would be the main fuel of war. Nothing like sawed off shotguns and tommyguns. Fallout tactics was much cooler in the beginning when you had guys with ak47 and hunting rifles, it became a scifi shooter when every squad member had power armors and gatling lasers.
If lower tier stuff was good enough for pvp, you'd get to fight much more often and it would hurt less to lose.
Other issue is that players can create so powerful fighters that they do terrible damage with those top tier weapons. No wonder the fights are over fast.

Izual:
avv is highlighting the real problem ; you still think you NEED to be level 21 and to have a super stuff to do PvP (LSW, CA, Sniper Rifle, shitloads of ammo, and so on). Try to think that now, with everything being quite rarer, you don't need to come in CA to fight well. Grab a leather armor and a rifle, because your opponents won't have great gear neither.

Miniguns are painful ? They are rare. Instant Kills are painful ? That's the proof you don't have to take your CA in fights, would be too risky if it's not a big battle.

Surf:
Simple solution - cut all those high tier equipment down. Make it uncraftable, just obtainable bye some events or so..

Izual:
Well that's what is happening with top tier equipment already. CA and so on are only middle tier.

Killy:
Izual u really dont get the problem, u have tiers of weapons and u cannot win with a grease gun agains someone who is using a minigun, now think about armors DT DR and stop saying this bs, u have to have the same stuff if u want to have a chance, then comes skill

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