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Author Topic: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?  (Read 4678 times)

Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« on: April 08, 2010, 05:31:39 pm »

+28 hp?

or 5% NORMAL DR, +2 dmg threshold?

IMO, second lifegiver might be better. Toughness wouldn't apply to damage from rocket launchers, energy weapons, flamethrowers which are all heavily used in the game.

And what about dodger? Think it's worth it? Would 5 more AC help evade more bullets from burst?
Keep in mind 5 AC is a big number because most armor will have 15-25 AC.
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 05:34:13 pm »

nope, whatever you do, do not take dodger, people concentrate on their combat skills, so a -5% to their CTH doesn't make any difference whatsoever since they make up for it with that 200% in their skillz
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 05:37:14 pm »

If its all about rank 2 lifegiver or rank 2 toughness (i mean, if you already got life 1 and tough 1), i vote definately toughness.
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 07:10:56 pm »

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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 07:12:40 pm »

Yeah AC is a joke in this game, toughness is probably a better choice than 20 hp.
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 07:21:20 pm »

Yeah AC is a joke in this game, toughness is probably a better choice than 20 hp.

It's 28 hp taking it at 15. every little bit helps
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 07:32:42 pm »

I vote for lifegiver :P

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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 07:34:53 pm »

go with toughness, it really makes a sour day for minigunners in combat, that 5% and 2 threshold really make a bigger difference than 28 hp
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010, 09:03:42 pm »

exactly what does the dmg threshold do? does it resist 2 more damage? if so it aint much

also, do crits apply to each bullet in a burst or as a whole?
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2010, 09:18:23 pm »

exactly what does the dmg threshold do? does it resist 2 more damage? if so it aint much

also, do crits apply to each bullet in a burst or as a whole?

2 dr is a lot, the formula is damage -DR/ %reduction, so if a minigun bullet is 7-11 all of a sudden its 5-9. Stacking with armour it adds up to a lot of saved hp.
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2010, 09:18:33 pm »

exactly what does the dmg threshold do? does it resist 2 more damage? if so it aint much

also, do crits apply to each bullet in a burst or as a whole?
It reduces damage of each bullet. Yes, crit applies for each bullet.
Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 09:47:03 pm »

So more criticals perk for a burst guy is a very good thing then? :D
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 10:49:04 am »

Yes ! With critical shots with miniguns you'll be able to make around 700-800 dmg on a bluesuit with JHP ammo.
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 07:15:02 pm »

Yes ! With critical shots with miniguns you'll be able to make around 700-800 dmg on a bluesuit with JHP ammo.
Poor bluesuiter, now he'll have -670 or -770 HP when die. He'll create topic at forum that BG is overpowered and then quit the game.
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Re: Defense: Lifegiver 2 or Toughness 2? Dodger?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010, 09:34:49 pm »

With really good armor and 2x Toughness you are almost minigun burst immune :P
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