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[Deathmann]

Hi,i thought two things...

1.Vendors in town's (specially in NCR) are filled with many unusable items so my suggestion is that if vendor have 10 things so he delete 7 or 8 of them and add some money (5-15% item price)..
   For example: Someone sell 10 common shotguns to vendor,he delete 7 or 8 of them and add 100 money in his pocket.
   
   It's not much but vendor's will not be filled with many unusable things and will sometimes even a little money..


2.It would be possible to make some NPC (somewhere) that should the selection by repeatable quest for gang sorted by few levels.Leader which start quest will see on map (randomly placed) location.
   Levels:1.) Animal's nest. Here will be 10 aninal's like gecko,pigrat,dogs and sometimes dead body with randomly loot inside (some better weapon with ammo or stimpacks or something like that)
            2.) Abandoned gasstation Camp with bandits or raiders. There will be 10-15 bandits and some loot (some weapons,maibe money)
            3.) Abandoned Bunker with Armed men. There will be 20-40 armed men with randomly weapons with boss on end (chance to drop some good weapon)
            4.) Mutant base. Here i would use outpost base map with 10-30 mutant inside and maybe strong mutant on end.

   Reward will be XP from monsters and some loot..

   

   
   

   

[Nice_Boat]

Both are awesome ideas. I mean #1 is obvious and self-explanatory.

As far as #2 goes - I'd love a dynamic quest system just like in Mount and Blade. You get a quest (repeatable, with a timeout), you get a location, you get a move on, you kill stuff, you loot stuff. Sometimes you pick locks, hack security terminals, disable defenses and repair generators. You could get a group quest for more stuff to kill and loot if you had people following you. Players get fun and items, mapmakers can make "dungeon" maps to keep it fresh, devs get less whine about the game being boring, everybody's happy.

[fouineur]

yes nice one .

for #1 it could aswell spawn a caravan with those goods heading to another city where it lack ?

or give quest to bring the stuff ?


In case of town control , having the option to "call" foreign caravaners or to send one somewhere else ?

other option would be to spawn "buyer npcs" each time an object reach a treshold :
something like whenever there are 50 shotguns in a shop from 1 to 50 npcs spawn and move to buy thoses (either at barter level or on a fixed rate ). This could put animation and money in town each time such an occurence happen .
And in some case could become a derivative of PK hunting training 


and I agree with the mounts & blade quest system it would work well .

about the amount of npc opponents ... humm... would be good if the number was less predectible ... and if the said randomly placed special quest encounter  was less predectible  in numbers to be expected ... even better if the npc there could offer more then just a fight : like 2-3 ways to resolve the matter rather then just a simple sweep and clear area , in short more in an original fallout spirit whenever possible .

For the abandoned gaz station ..hum...could it be possible to take it over and claim it for yourselves rignt after battle ?

stand against assaults quest  in a 7 mercenaries style would be nice aswell , with a random number of enemy waves ?

[Solar]

#1 is already the case. Items get deleted after a certain amount of time, then caps get spawned up to a limit, then after that items get spawned until the trader reaches his maximum.

#2 is also good and we have had discussions about this general theme

[vedaras]

so according to second suggestion: loners do shitty reward shitty exp quest, and gangs do "drop some good weapon quest" that doesnt sound very fair, except that good weapon is no better then combat shotgun or flamer.

[Wichura]

so according to second suggestion: loners do shitty reward shitty exp quest, and gangs do "drop some good weapon quest" that doesnt sound very fair, except that good weapon is no better then combat shotgun or flamer.

My dear friend from trolling in TB combats - loners are alwyas in "shitty" situation as long as game is gang-focused, as it is now, always was and always will be. And if group counts more than two brave people, they can at least try to make some "good weapon" quest.

[Deathmann]

#1 is already the case. Items get deleted after a certain amount of time, then caps get spawned up to a limit, then after that items get spawned until the trader reaches his maximum.

#2 is also good and we have had discussions about this general theme

I'm glad about it like it

 

For the abandoned gaz station ..hum...could it be possible to take it over and claim it for yourselves rignt after battle ? 

 
 
It would then untapped potential buying base

so according to second suggestion: loners do shitty reward shitty exp quest, and gangs do "drop some good weapon quest" that doesnt sound very fair, except that good weapon is no better then combat shotgun or flamer.

With luck you should be fine to handle level 1 Moreover, it was my suggestion, and it depends on how it sets the developers

[vedaras]

My dear friend from trolling in TB combats - loners are alwyas in "shitty" situation as long as game is gang-focused, as it is now, always was and always will be. And if group counts more than two brave people, they can at least try to make some "good weapon" quest.

im more applying my post to the author who says "yeah gimme some free loot and better that loot is good..."

[Deathmann]

im more applying my post to the author who says "yeah gimme some free loot and better that loot is good..."

It's not free loot.. Have you ever tried to shoot the 10-15 Raider's or 10 animal's at once? And the most advanced weapons in the Raider, I think something better than a broken Desert Eagle

[vedaras]

yeah i killed many raiders and animals like floaters centaurs alone, still i never got a lsw for that damn...

[Sius]

yeah i killed many raiders and animals like floaters centaurs alone, still i never got a lsw for that damn...

Kill one by one does not equal to an actual fight f.e. 5 vs 15. And this is not gang only suggestion. Its PARTY only suggestion since as loner you would die fast.

[Badger]

As far as #2 goes - I'd love a dynamic quest system just like in Mount and Blade. You get a quest (repeatable, with a timeout), you get a location, you get a move on, you kill stuff, you loot stuff. Sometimes you pick locks, hack security terminals, disable defenses and repair generators. You could get a group quest for more stuff to kill and loot if you had people following you. Players get fun and items, mapmakers can make "dungeon" maps to keep it fresh, devs get less whine about the game being boring, everybody's happy.

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