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[Sius]

How hard is it to make yourself a wooden bookshelf? And how hard could be something like chest? 1x hammer, few nails, some wood, 30 minutes of work.

Such "furniture" ideas were here many times before yes devs never really responded to any of them. Dunno why they avoid it so much. It simple, usable, will not harm anything (simple restriction to allow to drop chest only in bases/tents should do the trick) and it would make organization so much easier. You claim this is the faction mod yet you seem to ignore even those most simple requests that faction members have. 

[blahblah]

One thing is the duplication bug. Search for "bag" and see it's mentioned there as well.
Another thing is, I'm afraid, more organization = more crap.

Now some people don't hoard millions of items in their tents simply because it becomes a mess fast. With craftable containers, everyone would gladly have hundreds of items neatly sorted never to be used again.

[Lexx]

Such "furniture" ideas were here many times before yes devs never really responded to any of them. Dunno why they avoid it so much. It simple, usable, will not harm anything (simple restriction to allow to drop chest only in bases/tents should do the trick) and it would make organization so much easier. You claim this is the faction mod yet you seem to ignore even those most simple requests that faction members have.  Roll Eyes

I responded always to them. But to repeat it again: I totally love the idea and want it as soon as possible. Craftable chairs, tables, houses,... But it's simply not possible to solve this in a good way in the actual state of the engine. We could make such things possible, but not without a humungous big shitload of work, which has to be done at least twice. And then, when we can do this in a easy way with new engine features, we would need to revert everything and do the work again.

[Sius]

One thing is the duplication bug. Search for "bag" and see it's mentioned there as well.

bug = unwanted feature = will get eliminated

Another thing is, I'm afraid, more organization = more crap.
Now some people don't hoard millions of items in their tents simply because it becomes a mess fast. With craftable containers, everyone would gladly have hundreds of items neatly sorted never to be used again.

Thats the worst "argument" I've seen here on forums man .

[Hololasima]

For what we need craftable chairs and tables ? Chest is HELPFULL idea. Chair Absolute off-topic and crazy.

[Sius]

For what we need craftable chairs and tables ? Chest is HELPFULL idea. Chair Absolute off-topic and crazy.

Man everything like this is +1. If we could actually sit in chars and use a table (play cars, have beer on it etc) in future thanks to 3d models than it would be awesome.

[Hololasima]

Maybe in future with full 3D models. But right now ? ...
Dont forget, Chest is HELPFULL idea !

[Wichura]

+1 to craftable containers.

Two wipes ago I had a desk in my tent. I don't know where it was from, I bought it for 1k caps from a player, took to tent and placed on the ground. It worked perfectly as container, no missed items from the ground, no strange things going on, no map reloading.
I don't know much about technical issues and how hundred of crates will behave placed all around on one base map, also something could change in that matter from this time.

[vedaras]

Why ? Why i cant have my own new chest ? Why i must go to NCR and buy caravan ?
Seems that every simple solution for something is everytime bad.

why you have to get everything for free? you want it you have to ability to get it but you still making shitty suggestion.

[Sius]

why you have to get everything for free? you want it you have to ability to get it but you still making shitty suggestion.

Its not shitty suggestion its suggestion that makes sense. Now every gang has either brahmin parked everywhere or tons of items on the grounds or both. This is a faction mod yet factions has 0 option how to manage their stuff, separate good stuff from bad and somehow limit access to good stuff for new players. Thats the worst thing about everything. You take just 1 wrong guy in and you are done. He brings few friends and caravan and your hard work will be gone in a second. Yeah like thats possible in real life when 1st day noobie gets access to the top secrets hidden in safe/vault of the company he works for.

As I suggested months ago I would love possibility to hire some NPC that will work for you at certain gang hideouts. Something like banker at Redding. He would talk to you and through barter you would open an account in your base where you would put all your stuff and manage who will have access to your acc and who wont. Also something like general armor/wepon/ammo/drug store could exist there and only trusted members and higher ranked officers would have acces to it. Lets say that such item store should be limited in total item/weight capacity that could be boosted vie buying new lockers through our npc. So you buy yourself an outstanding base which would support such npc banker feature (caves and low hideouts should not have it) and you buy yourself some extra item storage space so in final you could store like few tons of materials there.

[vedaras]

whats the difference between brahmins parked and boxes instead of them ?
And if you want to have everything in same place drop same items on same ground hex.

[Sius]

whats the difference between brahmins parked and boxes instead of them ?
And if you want to have everything in same place drop same items on same ground hex.

Man please stop responding here or I will have to be rude. You see Lexx likes the idea and thats good but still you will keep posting such nonsense post of yours for what? Whats the reason of your posts? You don't want this game to develop or you want to get deeper into some developers a**?

Sure we can take brahmin or caravan or drop stuff all around the ground but that has massive cons when it comes to gang management and growth. If you are that blind them I will tell you why we want craftable containers and furniture:
- you can scroll through them like in inventory
- you can have more stuff in smaller space (cows, caravans, leaving stuff on the ground takes enormous amount of space)
- you can lock them
- you can manage your gang supplies with more ease
- it can lead into more sophisticated stuff like crafting barricades, holes and bridges, or eventually some storage system like I've suggested etc.

So why on earth we should stick to current situation, when its not suitable even for smaller gangs that don't PvP at all? Just because  you could say we can already store our items in something locker-like like brahmins or caravans? Man you are truly THE King of the wasteland.

Edit: 2 vedaras: I will simply ignore you from now on since you talk only nonsense.

[vedaras]

Sure we can take brahmin or caravan or drop stuff all around the ground but that has massive cons when it comes to gang management and growth. If you are that blind them I will tell you why we want craftable containers and furniture:
- you can scroll through them like in inventory
- you can have more stuff in smaller space (cows, caravans, leaving stuff on the ground takes enormous amount of space)
- you can lock them
- you can manage your gang supplies with more ease
- it can lead into more sophisticated stuff like crafting barricades, holes and bridges, or eventually some storage system like I've suggested etc.

gangs have bases with shitloads of lockers so i dont see a problem in here neither. Tents are made not for gangs and if you are keeping whole gangs stuff in your tent then its your own problem.

[Breeze66]

gangs have bases with shitloads of lockers

  man, you have never been in gang base, have you? 

[Sarakin]

Vedaras, sorry but you know shit about playing in a gang and bases. What bases lack most are lockers and storage units. Also your perfect solution with brahmins and caravans has flaws - brahmins can be accessed by only 1 character and caravas were mentioned before. Seriously, stuff management in bases is a big problem, thus I support Sius´ idea