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Shoutaxeror:
2 prototypes of groin laser rifle shooter (I still want to be a "sniper")

-"Tanky" one using buffout, nuka and cigs (92% chance of shooting in the groin)


-Extreme druggy one using jet, psycho, buffout, nuka and cigs (95% chance of shooting in the groin)


(Edit : screens changed)

Floodnik:
@CHARLIE
Are BGs so overpowered that they deal ~250 dmg in one burst? Thought it's possible only on point blank burst. Dunno, haven't done serious PvP in some time :P Maybe you're right.
But I still have something to defend myself. First, you assume that BG is in the range of shooting, count in the fact that I have a few free shoots for him before he approaches.
SG sniper indeed does outrange me, but that's a very slight difference. I just need to run a circle around and I'll see him :P Then the tankiness could maybe do its job.
About the original build, first, shooting faster but... 1 AP, man. That's like nothing. Second, the +15% bonus on crits, where did you pull it out? :D There's no such thing. We have the same critical chance if he takes 10 LK. I think I would win in a duel honestly :P

Again let me repeat that I don't wanna build a full tank, just a sniper featuring some tankiness.

C.H.A.R.L.I.E:
@Shoutaxeror i dont know.... sniper should shoot eyes. I'd go with the first build, but modified with 10 luck. If i had to chose one of the others, i'd take the 2nd one, but take a point from str or PE and go for bonehead, since i see you have a trait left. You will have easy 95% groin shoot anyway, and bonehead gives you an edge vs snipers.

@Floodnik: PvP builds are all about min-maxing. a 256 hp -15% dr is not minmaxed, its broken. Ok im sorry for putting it like that, but that's how i feel.
 The 15% was refering to damage, but i was wrong, since the original build is EW, not normal damage.

Floodnik:

--- Quote from: C.H.A.R.L.I.E on April 24, 2013, 09:15:45 pm ---@Floodnik: PvP builds are all about min-maxing.

--- End quote ---
You've got a point here but I wouldn't put it exactly that way :P There's a lot of balance you have to introduce, a lot of dillemas to deal with using compromises. The "min" part is always about charisma, sometimes BG builds take 1 LK(which seems bad now, happened in the past often though), snipers usually minimise strenght.

Actually I see a way to compensate the -15% dr which I didn't consider before - psycho(non-standard way for snipers). If I took one point from ST and put it into PE, ST would stay the same with psycho, PE would just fall by one, which is totally OK in this case! 7 PE + sharpshooter + 220% EW is still maximum hit chance on Laser Rifle's range(if I'm not completely wrong).

It wouldn't be a totally min-maxed tank you want, that would require anti-crit perks and toughnesses. But don't forget I'm still aiming for a sniper build.

C.H.A.R.L.I.E:
Yep, making basically the same build as OP, only wih -1ap in exchange for 28 hp, and 1 less strength for 1 more int. In terms of CTH, +1 str will give more than +1 int because above 200 48 extra SP doesent translate into +20 skill (only+16), which is the loss from each inadequate strength point. You get doc, but you lose 7 CW and 1 hp.

Anyway, the last lifegiver means you lose 10% (helmet), 15%(+bonehead), or 20%(++MoS) crit chance on your eye\head shots from not having RBTE. Is that worth it for a sniper?

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