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Cari:
You know, usually I wouldn't even bother posting, but I noticed some serious issues with what I read and I'll take the time to point out what I really don't like here, as well as offer my own opinions as to not seem unappreciative of your ideas. Bare with me, I'll probably be mean at some points but I'll just leave this little disclaimer here...

Please don't take a damn thing in this post personally.

Alrighty now that the pleasantries are out of the way, let's get down to it.

The Bad

At the very beginning you started out with a mission, a purpose, and I was really drawn in, thinking hey this might be good let's read on...

Until I came to this.


--- Quote from:  Join the development team now! --- if a player faction doesnt start town control timer once in one month, their faction base with all stuff in there gets deleted. People should make tents for their own alts, not factions
--- End quote ---

Sounds like another "feature" to me! Why don't we just contradict ourselves and change up more stuff that's worked for a long time that nobody will want? Oh I'll just leave this here...


--- Quote from: Lmao Contradiction --- So stop disabling and nerfing everything what people learn how to use well.
--- End quote ---

Simply, LOL. As a matter of fact, you deserve a cookie.




--- Quote from:  Lol I'm good at a video game so I'll call you bad names ---I liked that because it attracted pvp players to towns, and we should not only try to make southern noobs visit north time to time, but northern pros come and visit south also.
--- End quote ---

I laughed SO damn hard when I read this because I can smell a sense of ego behind it. The only people who refer to anyone as a noob are those that explicitly place themselves above the rest. Humility, something you should learn this year. Dispense with the stupid bullshit and get on my level.

Okay so there's a bunch of hilariously childish and excessively obscene comments in this and I'll just put them all in one pile. A numbered one.


* So what the fuck guys
* Just fuckin make it like in orginal fallouts
* i fuckin want it from f2
* they arent fuckin op
* it makes it fuckin retarded
* just return fuckin drugs like they were in fallout 2
* they coast fuckin shit you know!
* fuckin total 0, thanks for this balance devs
* now you nerfed it to shit
* it is used as fuckin faggot sniper rifle
These are the ten best examples of why your posting prompted me to respond. So let's get started with this list.

1. That's a great question, same thing I was asking when I read this list. Is the profanity a sign of maturity or maybe you really want someone to read this? Well you got my attention, in the wrong way.
2. No YOU fuckin' make it that way, make your own damn server, SDK is available. Demanding like that is pompous and arrogant, and shows you won't put shit for effort into anything that you're a part of.
3. That sounds like the rantings of an eight year old kid at a Toys R Us who didn't get his precious pink power ranger action figure. Jesus christ.
4. I'll address the main part of this, where you were asking to add crowbars. My answer is open up a footlocker or two in random encounters.
5. The only thing retarded is the amount of curses that this list is laden with.
6. See number 2.
7. I have no idea what the hell you're on about and I'm getting the feeling I don't want to know.
8. See quote at the top of my post.
9. Opinionated and moronic...
10. The way you address these changes is so hilarious that it lends 0 credibility to anything you've said, and if you had any respect or credibility it dissolved in the face of this onslaught of idiocy.

Anyways the gripe train is done, I could go on but I'll sum it up. The attitude you posted with is nothing short of breathtakingly ignorant. I had high hopes at the start of this post but as it went on your abrasive manner dissolved any want I had of contributing to the discussion meaningfully. Now before you decide to snap back, consider this. I carefully just read everything you said, and what I posted on was how you wrote it. Food for thought.

The Good

Anyways I like the idea behind the faction PvP event, that would be really fun if implemented properly. Though I must say the map idea would probably require a new setting environment for the server and really wouldn't work too well for 2238. Consider time frames accordingly. We do need more rewarding quests as there's only a handful people will ever consider doing, I agree. I don't get your idea with the player factions bases at all. I think if people want to have a base they should be able to, I use mine as a hub for my characters and a safer, larger place for all my itanz. Anyways that's my spin on it, I don't see breaking it if it doesn't need fixing, maybe in your server, but I'd be righteously pissed if it was implemented in this.

I do agree about the weapon changes but I don't know, I'm kind of used to them in this environment. If APA and Gauss weapons suddenly sprouted out of the ground I'd be very worried and probably just stop playing outright, as it would change radically the meta-game and really ruin the pace of things. Though I did enjoy the range on the Pancor Jackhammer back in the day and I CAN agree that I hate the change to the Bozar, I just hated the way you went about saying it, I felt like you're doing yourself a disservice acting out like that. [Surely you're intelligent enough to construct an argument that doesn't revolve around insults?]

Ditto with crafting and mining, I'm actually comfortable with the changes implemented to mining recently [to a degree] because it really makes things more intuitive and feature filled. A trading revamp, on the other hand, would probably be welcome, I wouldn't mind Barter having a more profound and tangible [as well as predictable] effect on the prices of things.

I have no preference on drugs, probably because I never have believed in using them because I wouldn't use them in real life, call me lame or self restricting but, I craft them, I sometimes use the lesser ones [rad-away naturally] but yeah, that's about it, huge storehouse of them, no use for them. So my argument here is a moot point, conceded.

No doubt that finding a good fitting build takes time and energy, and I sympathize with the constant changes that ruin builds all the time, I really don't like it either. But on the other hand constantly tossing insults at the Devs won't solve anything either. Respect is a two way street and all that pointless jazz no one ever cares to listen to.

Though you have a point with frag nades. Why the high AP cost in relation to plasma nades? Or maybe I'm just retarded but I swear Plasma is 4 AP and Frags are 5? Probably the all nighter I pulled the other night kicking in, feel free to slap me hard if I'm wrong.

Anyways in closing, I hope I didn't piss you off too bad but please lay off the profanity, you have some good ideas but they're really muddied up with all that fuck this and fuck that. Makes for an unpleasant read, you know?

Well anyways take care, PM me if you have any further concerns. Care bear out!

Vindict:
fascinating, but too short.

more verbal diarrhea please.

vedaras:
well from what you said about my language, swear words, insults and all, well take it as wasteland is harsh, wasteland forum also :D i am not going to talk like being in some church, cause i dont think it does change anything in the ideas or visions i suggest.

from what i can answer abour your post is:

1) well ok, the problem is not players hording the stuff in their bases, the problem is such factions who gather up people from server, but do nothing. I think most of server players should be involved in pvp and other server activities, and factions who just idle in ncr just lowers the percent, so the suggestion is to fight against that,so that all the players could be in active fighting gangs.

2) frag grenades coasted 4 ap before, but with fast shot and bonus rate of fire you could make them cost 2 ap only, what let you have a decent build as good in close range as minigunner (not better, just as good)

also in this position i shouldnt probably talk in the name of everybody, but i think everybody played fallout 1 and 2 when they were kids,  these games are best games ever or still amongst the top, people now really enjoy the opportunity to play their childhood game dream online, and i think everyone wants the best for the server, they donate (i donated myself 3 times i think), they play, they make suggestions how can game be better in their opinion, they spot bugs, they do everything because they want whats best for the server, not because they want to change servers, ragequite game or shit like that. Also i really admire the work devs put into this game, we really owe them. But as said before, we want whats best for fonline, and some things in my opinion are far from best that happened one time or another, so that should explain it more or less.

White150:
These posts and discussions don't make sense. It's like you say that you have done something you don't want or like. If you paid them they will do something else.

Giftless:
Game should be after the events of FO2, that way all the extra developments to the towns and the railways make sense. Write new content for the Enclave survivors and the BoS because they're going to have new objectives.

There should be some huge shit going down too with NCR going to war against VC, New Reno, and San Fran. Historically, trains have lead the expansion of civilizations into once 'barbarian' territories.

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