Other > Closed suggestions
Remove Hinkley.
T-888:
--- Quote from: Senocular on March 08, 2013, 01:59:10 pm ---What's the point of TC and all features outside of Hinkley if you can just fight at Hinkley, risk nothing and have the same fun? It's like a different server inside 2238.
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The place doesn't hold much values of the rest of the game. There's no full loot, no risk and reward, no choices and consequences.
I can definitely say that it is not the same fun, though I could argue that it is less fun, less thrill as there is no risk, reward and competition goes in a completely different fashion than in an open world, not confined unimmersive arena.
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on March 08, 2013, 02:14:14 pm ---t-888's motto: "if i don't like it, remove it. fuck the rest"
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Oh what? You'd actually have to play the game, get equipment and interact with other players in order to have a fight? Couldn't play a faction mod like a loner anymore?
Oh boohoo, cry more noob.
Dark.:
--- Quote from: T-888 on March 08, 2013, 02:17:29 pm ---There's no full loot, no risk and reward, no choices and consequences.
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Sure. Because everyone can handle all the stuff needed to TC. Hinkley it's a good place for training and improving your PvP skill. It has to remain.
-1 to this suggestion.
avv:
--- Quote from: T-888 on March 08, 2013, 01:03:40 pm ---Combat on 2238 is very simplistic, easy to play and easy to master. Thinking new players need specific training for that, well that's absurd and there's no better practice than the real deal even if you think so.
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When I started playing in hinkley against one of my buddies who had been there for a while he won the first 20 rounds. That's 20 gear sets if it had not been hinkley. And the learning time would be about a week longer since you barely never fight more than 3 or 4 rounds in reno.
--- Quote ---The game is not responsible for players who don't like to play it for what it really is, having an artificial arena alien to the game doesn't make it any better, just split the low amount of players we have that play a different game inside it.
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You know why they play it? Because you see who you are set against, it's fair, there's no cheats involved and it's fast. Apply those in the actual gameplay and you can scrap hinkley. If you remove hinkley and there's a hugeass swarm in the wasteland destroying everything, the guys who would be doing hinkley totally won't unite against it or go do pvp no matter the odds. They just play some other game, stand in ncr or go fooling around with trollbuilds. It's because to do constant pvp, players need hope and good chances to win. The wasteland rarely offers those.
manero:
Quick tip. Even if t888 and avv got right at some points i don't think anyone want to read all of their walls of text over and over. It's pointless even if it's connected with topic. After few posts we already know your points of view and there is no sense to post anything else. Seriously.
T-888:
--- Quote from: avv on March 08, 2013, 02:25:07 pm ---When I started playing in hinkley against one of my buddies who had been there for a while he won the first 20 rounds. That's 20 gear sets if it had not been hinkley. And the learning time would be about a week longer since you barely never fight more than 3 or 4 rounds in reno.
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I know a thing or two about improvement from other games, you learn the best once you are under pressure. So, in those few Reno fights you'd actually learn about the game much more than in some arena.
I never went to specifically practice there, only when there weren't any other players around elsewhere, but if there wasn't any Hinkley, I most probably wouldn't have to go there, because there would be other players elsewhere.
--- Quote from: avv on March 08, 2013, 02:25:07 pm ---You know why they play it? Because you see who you are set against, it's fair, there's no cheats involved and it's fast.
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So, that is basically saying, there are a lot players playing Hinkley that can't deal with the actual game. The game is too harsh?
Then again Hinkley doesn't make the game any better.
That's sad.
Fine, if we have so much of these players, then I guess the suggestion won't be supported.
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