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Changelog 23/02/2013
Keksz:
--- Quote from: Kilgore on March 03, 2013, 05:47:08 pm ---But it makes you cry a daily river of tears so it's absolutely fine for me
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Epic ;D ;D
avv:
--- Quote from: T-888 on March 03, 2013, 06:11:45 pm ---Yeah, I don't play the game very often, only when something interesting happens inside and that is always connected to hostile environment which will be 95% of the time CZ because of players being hostile in it, but if I'm inside it initiating it, all these meaningless restrictions will apply to players outside and I will still have to wait for them to wait out their Idling timer in order to meet them
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It doesn't apply to the first team who enters against you. Unless they decided to bluesuit scout and die.
--- Quote ---So, your saying this won't apply after I wait some timer out? I will not be with buddies in chat and in team speak, maybe disallow TS3 while at it or make it against the rules to communicate with players outside the game? ;D
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If you wait the timer out, it means you spent time in somewhere unsafe instead of just appearing out of nothingness fully prepared and aware against your opponent. Admittedly worldmap is way too safe still.
If all non-game communication methods were shut down, you could be allowed to start the game without idling timer.
T-888:
--- Quote from: avv on March 03, 2013, 06:39:57 pm ---It doesn't apply to the first team who enters against you.
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How so? Look, real situation.
We do TC or camp in Reno and kill players who enter, now opponent team rings a bell in their TS3/IRC/Mumble etc. etc. they jump and and go to the city and then they still have to wait out their Idling timer and we have to wait on them. Being in base, waiting for taxi, taking extra stuff if needed, these kind of things happen in safe locations and once you reach the city I've noticed that you still have full Idling timer.
--- Quote from: avv on March 03, 2013, 06:39:57 pm ---If you wait the timer out, it means you spent time in somewhere unsafe instead of just appearing out of nothingness fully prepared and aware against your opponent.
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Not sure if you don't understand or don't want to understand just so I wouldn't be right in spite of me being the arrogant T-888,
--- Quote from: T-888 on March 03, 2013, 05:23:17 pm ---it is an unguarded location which is meant to be unsafe, but what's the point if some feature tries to prevent the risk? Meaning if I would be inside a city for those few minutes in order to be able to attack that guy "risking" myself, that means some feature would be protecting me from hostility while inside it and in the end I wouldn't risk anything as I'd be waiting out a meaningless restriction.
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And it can be waited out in some dark corner of WM with a fast buggy and have completely no risk, so it doesn't work at all.
--- Quote from: avv on March 03, 2013, 06:39:57 pm ---Admittedly worldmap is way too safe still.
If all non-game communication methods were shut down, you could be allowed to start the game without idling timer.
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Are you fucking kidding me? ;D
You still haven't told me, NOBODY HAS, why it is bad that someone can't jump in and play the game right now (not your opinion, otherwise Jovanka and you are just putting yours higher than mine), but he has to wait out something and that makes it right, if he doesn't really risk himself, because he is being protected(that's what you think, in practice nobody risks while being in Idling timer) by the same feature why he does it all and that the risk can be avoided in certain places making it even more pointless?
Answer that directly, can you?
There's good reason why nothing like that is on any other game, I can't mention at least one, because you people fail in basic logic, arrogant it might be, but it is what it is and I'm not gonna lay low or be quite when someone needs to say what needs to be said.
avv:
--- Quote from: T-888 on March 03, 2013, 06:54:56 pm ---We do TC or camp in Reno and kill players who enter
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Those players who enter are the first "team" even if they are alone.
--- Quote ---You still haven't told me, NOBODY HAS, why it is bad that someone can't jump in and play the game right now
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Because nobody does it. For example you yourself don't enter the game unless you know what you're going against. I'd like to meet this player whose rights you're defending. This mysterious person who randomly spawns in towns without any idea what might be there.
Senocular:
Hey Jovanka, good luck with banning those proxies. I can rent a 50 ping proxy for 5$ a month and it's not in any database. :)
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