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Changelog 14/02/13
dskpnk:
--- Quote from: Shangalar on February 15, 2013, 01:14:54 pm ---Triptroll
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Shangaylar, why u stupidly come here trolling by giving stupid nick, some guys are discussing here, go troll your phenix away...
Mike Crosser:
--- Quote from: jacky. on February 15, 2013, 02:07:57 pm ---Wipe and what about forgotten ba/ea/ncr ca?
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I also want craftable PA and pulse rifle.
T-888:
--- Quote from: Shangalar on February 15, 2013, 01:14:54 pm ---Anyways, Triptroll has certainly found another nice exploit for him and his mates, so that he will mock you all again when wipe will be done and when he'll be our new Vedaras. Look at his insistence, his arguments. He is so excited, a true virgin, he must have found a hen laying golden eggs. Never saw him arguing for anything else than his personal advantage. <3
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Personal advantage, exploit ... better take some pills, Wipe is just fun. Anyway, anyway for what? Came here to talk trash, do you feel better now? If not then your missing the point either way.
Truly bad exploits, well you can ask my team mates, at one point or another I'd try to persuade them to report it and it would be rather sooner than later. You don't know shit about me, if something spoils the game for me, it would be an advantage, personal gain for me to get it fixed? If you truly believe what you said, you'll shut up.
--- Quote from: Wipe on February 15, 2013, 01:18:46 pm ---Time doesn't matter, if it will be needed to wipe after very short time - it will be done. If only part of world need to be removed (aka "item wipe") - it will be done too.
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Sure, at the point when nobody could play anymore - "it would be done", right? :)
There's plenty of item damage from Town Control box, nobody gives a fuck.
--- Quote from: Wipe on February 15, 2013, 01:18:46 pm ---Only argument i see here is "it's been over the year!" - and so what?
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I won't argue about the technical necessity, I can't argue and your automatically right about that.
I presented enough, "arguments" which you don't recognize as one's for the sake of game play. I don't want to re-write anything.
--- Quote from: JovankaB on February 15, 2013, 01:17:24 pm ---We could just add "something more" later and then wipe the server. The only difference
would be that we wouldn't have tested idling timer, tents etc. before the wipe.
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If you purely narrow it down to only to the changes done at that moment, yes your statement applies, but the difference is in game play, which in that case doesn't apply as it won't be the only difference.
Imagine a player that has everything he needs, he doesn't need to visit Glow, Ares, dungeons in other words, no motivation to do Town Control for resources, it is just fight purely for the fight, mines in the resources more or less are irrelevant etc. etc. I could go on and on about this, because I'm that kind of player and I would love to see a Wipe. Face it, I have not been the first and I won't be the last player that will tell you that there is really nothing more to do in the game. Wipe changes that, at least for a time and as better the quality the server is when Wipe happens, the better chances for it to last longer provided with additional changes what is what I call " something more."
That's how I see it.
--- Quote from: Trokanis on February 15, 2013, 01:30:52 pm ---Meh wipes are good for many reasons, but they in no way make or break the game play. It takes maybe 2 weeks of the hard core people playing before there are bases full of stuff and people with multiple capped characters.
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This session it was 3-4 months(next wipe it could be longer) for my faction when we really felt that there is nothing to do, mainly due to broken features.
Wipe doesn't make or break the game play? Flawed statement, it is simply not true in any way, it is completely different time to how the late end of session is.
Shangalar:
--- Quote from: dskpnk on February 15, 2013, 02:09:06 pm ---Shangaylar, why u stupidly come here trolling by giving stupid nick, some guys are discussing here, go troll your phenix away...
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What about you dear DSK? Still wanna beat me IRL?
--- Quote ---Truly bad exploits, well you can ask my team mates, at one point or another I'd try to persuade them to report it and it would be rather sooner than later. You don't know shit about me, if something spoils the game for me, it would be an advantage, personal gain for me to get it fixed? If you truly believe what you said, you'll shut up.
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The day you'll act as an adult instead of a know-it-all jackass, a lot of us will consider you seriously.
Mind you, I share most of your arguments. It's just your tone which is really annoying : most of the time, you sound like a arrogant prepubescent kid who yells at his parents to get some shit. Stop acting like you're teaching lessons to everyone.
Trokanis:
--- Quote from: T-888 on February 15, 2013, 02:11:31 pm ---Rambling summed up to 'My opinion should be law, and things should be based on my experience in the game.'
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Just because your faction took a few months to be flush in your opinion doesn't mean that others weren't done in less time. I saw people happily tromping about in combat armors and mercs within the first 2 weeks. Everyone has a different style of play and no one point of view can be considered more correct or relevant than another. You spend a lot of time (and text) throwing your opinion about and belittling others based on what you want from the game and how you think it should be done with little regard for the effort and the thoughts of the people actually working on the game.
The honeymoon after a wipe is a fleeting thing, yes it's fun and nice but for most people it is just a few weeks of hard work than it's back to status quo. Truthfully if they wiped tomorrow without any added changes other than what came out last change log the honeymoon would go by even faster because everyone knows all the little ins and outs of the current features. The great thing about wipes and the reason why they typically take some time for people to get on their feet is because of New game altering Features, without that a wipe would be like what others have said, just a ~deleteself password, nothing new.
Anyhow these are facts that everyone knows, sorry for the off topic, and the resulting multi-line response I'm sure will be forthcoming. This update was very interesting and has some nice flare, personally it's a little annoying to have to log off every time I need to step afk for a min while out in the wastes, but a small price to pay for what you guys needed to do.
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