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(New?) Idea for bringing PA/APA back in the game
greenthumb:
Power Armor and Advanced Power Armor arent same class armors , they differ even more than metal armor and combat amor class. Do not forget this fact in your ideas expresions.
Also what is relevant here and even more important than just expressions is DR/DT stats and ST bonuses given by them. Such bonus as +4 to SPECIAL points is rly not acceptable for current (unbalanced) PVP balance. Also with armor normal DR over 40% "tank alts" are getting too close to 100%(95%) damage reductions what is again not acceptable.
Consider that maxium DR atm is 90% and even that is reachable with maximum 70hp, so pretty close to dead, and next 5% of DR would HALF absolut dealed damage = not acceptable again.
My opinions is that regular Power Armors might be used for some events or given by GMs to some HARD RPlayers for such not PVPish purpose. But Hardened Power Armor or any of APAs arent useble with current game.
BLDYMSS:
--- Quote from: MrSarcastic on February 13, 2013, 06:10:11 pm ---As far as I know PA/APA in not in the game due to a game balance issue. Remember old Fallouts? It made you almost invulnerable. Everyone would want to have it if it was that powerful. On the other hand if it gets nerfed too much the idea of having one loses all its meaning. Guess that settles the issue with farming it from BoS/Enclave.
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There must be a balanced point between overpowered and nerfed to unattractive, I BELIEVE in it!
--- Quote from: MrSarcastic on February 13, 2013, 06:10:11 pm ---I'm not sure if joining BoS/E is the good way to go however. Since you can't join a player faction once you're with BoS/E, and as we know Fonline 2238 is about player factions - your proposition will encourace alting. People will keep an alt to do BoS/E quests for armor, then give it to another char.
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Then scrap the part about joining BOS/Enclave. Atm theres is no real reason to join them anyway.
You'd just do the aforementioned quest chain as some kind of freelancer for them.
--- Quote from: Keksz on February 13, 2013, 06:17:04 pm ---Just simply make it craftable.
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Boooring. :P And even if a lot of skill and mats are needed, there will be enough nolifers that will make the high sci and rep alt and the mining alts and craft them in masses. Even if the pa would take the whole 6hrs of crafting cd. This would encourage alting and grinding even more. Again: Booooooooooring.
Through obtaining it by a hard to reach/completeable quest that has long repeat timer, the amount of PAs in game could be regulated better. And its fun and some much needed PVE-adventure! ;D
And so far no one responded to the recharging idea... :(
Cmoon, we can make this work. Well.. devs can make this work i guess ;D
--- Quote from: greenthumb on February 13, 2013, 06:52:34 pm ---Also what is relevant here and even more important than just expressions is DR/DT stats and ST bonuses given by them. Such bonus as +4 to SPECIAL points is rly not acceptable for current (unbalanced) PVP balance. Also with armor normal DR over 40% "tank alts" are getting too close to 100%(95%) damage reductions what is again not acceptable.
Consider that maxium DR atm is 90% and even that is reachable with maximum 70hp, so pretty close to dead, and next 5% of DR would HALF absolut dealed damage = not acceptable again.
My opinions is that regular Power Armors might be used for some events or given by GMs to some HARD RPlayers for such not PVPish purpose. But Hardened Power Armor or any of APAs arent useble with current game.
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edit:
just missed that post,
I see what the problem is. It looks like there is much more work to be done in scaling parameters of all armors,DR-perks and such.
Damn.
What comes to mind first there is at least taking away ST bonus, but i guess thats not enough.
Time to rethink this.
McLooter:
Original PA is not very overpowered, all weapons can do substantial damage against it, gatling laser can maybe not cause some damage, yet again, there are always bypasses. I don't like the idea of PA or beyond since factions could farm large amounts of it and can get quite ridiculous.
BLDYMSS:
--- Quote from: McLooter on February 13, 2013, 07:41:01 pm ---I don't like the idea of PA or beyond since factions could farm large amounts of it and can get quite ridiculous.
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read my suggestion please. It contains ideas how to minimize amount of PAs in game.
Mike Crosser:
Suggested lots of times(twice by me).
But this sound ehhhh decent?
There are visible flaws 'n' all.
Anyway,here is what i would add to this suggestion:
Make BoS/Enc have limited number of players who can join (20~ should do it)
Perhaps it could cripple the farming of it?
Also with each additional player make the cost to join even greater,maybe even turn it into a quest like in F1 (the glow trip).
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