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[Mike Crosser]

Thanks,but I think I'll go  for otd instead of FA.It is tb after all.

[Keksz]

U'll need moar PE if u wanna use it in TB

Ohh and....

Lol sure, i have see that you want take drugs. It was just a suggestion.

Then i can propose you:

ST 8
PE 5
EN 10
Ch 1
AG 10
Int 4
LK 3

Brof, action boy *2, lifegiver, brd, event tougher, adrenaline rush and even more criticals.

You will have 2 turn, 13 critic chance, a good resistance (min 50) 200 in big guns, 120 fisrt aid, and 71 doctor, or outdoorsman as you wish.

LK 1 sucks, if you dropped your weapon and lost your next turn with a fucking encounter with 10 ncr army, good luck!

....XDDDD

[Bego]

Lol sure, i have see that you want take drugs. It was just a suggestion.

Then i can propose you:

ST 8
PE 5
EN 10
Ch 1
AG 10
Int 4
LK 3

Brof, action boy *2, lifegiver, brd, event tougher, adrenaline rush and even more criticals.

You will have 2 turn, 13 critic chance, a good resistance (min 50) 200 in big guns, 120 fisrt aid, and 71 doctor, or outdoorsman as you wish.

LK 1 sucks, if you dropped your weapon and lost your next turn with a fucking encounter with 10 ncr army, good luck!

Please, please tell me you're not serious...

EDIT: OK, this is my take at the build... Its supposed to be for farming, as well to be able to fight back at other players...
SPECIAL 6 9 10 1 3 10 1
Fast metabolism, loner (?)
Bonus move, strong back, even tougher, action boy, action boy, bonus rate of fire, lifegiver, lifegiver+
I guess you could switch even tougher for earlier sequence, and I personally would not take strong back for my character (I never farm alone), but since CW 100 seems to be requirement what the hell, take it.

BG 200, rest on OD... I guess you could tag Throwing as well, to make your leveling as much painless and cheap as possible.. Or you could tag Doc, but if youre crippled in TB fight, youre most likely dead already.

I know you said "NO DRUGZ" but with this build you can also use cigarettes to gain PE +1 and get better sight and sequence... In PvE it might not matter much but if a player comes in your enco it may be one thing that will save your ass.

[Marko]

Mike, as you can see, asking for build help gets many varied responses. The replies help refine it, making the forum a valuable tool...a tool that is often abused...which is why i am in favor of eliminating the forum lol.

Okay i want to say seriously, plan to use cigs at least. It doesn't take any caps or farming or alts or hardly any time to get a ton of cigs crafted. Try it and you'll see how easy it is to boost your PE  +1 any time - just need a lighter (cheap). Go to the tobacco farm down south, pluck those tobacco leaves, use that little table there and you'll have 40 cigs in a short time. Do that a few nights next week and you'll have a stack of cigs so big you'll want to hand them out as gifts to friends.

[Wind_Drift]

Mike, as you can see, asking for build help gets many varied responses. The replies help refine it, making the forum a valuable tool...a tool that is often abused...which is why i am in favor of eliminating the forum lol.

Forum is almost purely abuse tool.

Meta gaming bad.  *grunt*

[Kascin]

Well this is the kind of character I would make

And I want to explain some little things:
- 8 Perception is not a mistake, this give you a better sequence; so this is your turn before lots of ennemies (including players with 6 Per big guns characters)
- Man of steel to lower ennemies criticals, because the character has only 1 luck. But if you feel lucky take Lifegiver instead
- 1 Intelligence is enought for this kind of character, but it's a bit boring to level it (you have Bonus Rate of Fire only level 24), so I prefer to have 2 Int and waste some skillpoints in First Aid
- First Aid is interesting to heal your character once the fight is finished; I like it, but it's not compulsory
- I have chosen the trait Fast Shot only because this give you +5 damage (per attack, not per round...) and other traits are useless. But not compulsory too.
- Strong back allow you to carry more (obviously), but if you prefer you can take Lifegiver instead

And about Bonus Ranged Damage, it's not really useless but not really usefull too with a M60, as this weapon has only 10 rounds. This perk is more interesting with a Minigun or an Avenger.

[-Max Payne-]

Please, please tell me you're not serious...

EDIT: OK, this is my take at the build... Its supposed to be for farming, as well to be able to fight back at other players...
SPECIAL 6 9 10 1 3 10 1
Fast metabolism, loner (?)
Bonus move, strong back, even tougher, action boy, action boy, bonus rate of fire, lifegiver, lifegiver+
I guess you could switch even tougher for earlier sequence, and I personally would not take strong back for my character (I never farm alone), but since CW 100 seems to be requirement what the hell, take it.

BG 200, rest on OD... I guess you could tag Throwing as well, to make your leveling as much painless and cheap as possible.. Or you could tag Doc, but if youre crippled in TB fight, youre most likely dead already.

I know you said "NO DRUGZ" but with this build you can also use cigarettes to gain PE +1 and get better sight and sequence... In PvE it might not matter much but if a player comes in your enco it may be one thing that will save your ass.

Lol 9 PE + earlier sequence for a build who shoot at 35 range max yeah yeah!! And 6 ST for a char who must have min carry weight 100, you will have some problems too loot. Ok you take strong back, but you have no BRD, no critic, on ca mk2 you will use more ammo that you will loot, so it's shit. You never have farm alone, i farm alone, VC, Bos, etc... and without damage you will die. And your char have 0 resistance.

[-Max Payne-]

U'll need moar PE if u wanna use it in TB

Ohh and....
....XDDDD

Instead of just say shit, propose a better char then.

[Bego]

No, no youre right, PE 5 is absoultely perfect! Magnificent! I take it as youre a masochist and like to get outsequenced by a molerat. 

Oh, and btw, 1 BRD for m60? You serious, dude?

[-Max Payne-]

5 pe + cigs = 32 range and for Farm NCR ARMY you will use the rocks on the maps, but if you have a m60 who shoot at 50 exes, 9 PE why not.

[-Max Payne-]

No, no youre right, PE 5 is absoultely perfect! Magnificent! I take it as youre a masochist and like to get outsequenced by a molerat. 

Oh, and btw, 1 BRD for m60? You serious, dude?

+ When you farm ncr army with a big guner you will first fuck the m60 at 1 exe, so you will shoot the patrol at very short range, i think you have never farm ncr army.

[Bego]

Maybe its not about field of view but about sequence? You heard of sequence, right?

[-Max Payne-]

Maybe its not about field of view but about sequence? You heard of sequence, right?

Oh sure, but 9 pe for a big gun is too much, that's good for a sniper, a big gun dont need so much PE. May be we wiil organize a farm party together and we will see =)

[Bego]

Maybe =)

But I wasnt actually thinking high PE weapon-wise... Each 1 PE gives you 2 sequence, and with higher sequence you get the turn earlier. For farming alone, lower PE may do you good, but what if a player comes in your enco and has significantly higher sequence than you?

I guess my problem is being paranoid, because every time I go farming I expect somebody to come in, looking for my blood =)

[-Max Payne-]

Maybe =)

But I wasnt actually thinking high PE weapon-wise... Each 1 PE gives you 2 sequence, and with higher sequence you get the turn earlier. For farming alone, lower PE may do you good, but what if a player comes in your enco and has significantly higher sequence than you?

I guess my problem is being paranoid, because every time I go farming I expect somebody to come in, looking for my blood =)

Yes, but when you farm ncr army you stay on the middle on the map, near the spawn.It's not the same when you farm Vault city, you kill them may be with a burster at long range ( i farm then with burster fnfal 14 ap). Farming alone is risked, sure, if 2 or 3 pks are spawning, run or shoot xD. That's the biggest problem with farm. I farm with a car, it's very nice with a big guner, you will run around the car, Npcs follow you and have not much AP too shoot ^^