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PvP loot to the not so deserving
avv:
--- Quote from: T-888 on December 08, 2012, 04:37:55 pm ---Doesn't have to be some pocket of map and doesn't have to be logged off actually or on WM, not here to teach someone to play.
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If you refuse to explain yourself I will just interpret that you're a wizard.
--- Quote ---If the map is poorly designed of course, but most of the maps are made quite well to allow flexible situations.
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Flexible: more spawns. More spawns mean more assigned sneakers. A team that doesn't dual log can't afford many meaning that some spawns are left unguarded, meaning that attackers do have quite a nice advantage.
--- Quote ---Multitasking, as I said I didn't came here to give you tips, but there is good reason why a team affords something like that and can afford even without FR.
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Multitasking? Care to explain?
If you have a bluesuit sneak in your team there's 2 explanations: you have one less trooper or you perform a dual log in pvp, which is cheating.
--- Quote ---Initiators = attackers, because they start the fight, they attack. :)
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[nitpick]no the defenders are initiators because without them there would be nobody to attack[/nitpick]
T-888:
--- Quote from: avv on December 08, 2012, 04:53:31 pm ---If you refuse to explain yourself I will just interpret that you're a wizard.
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Exactly, magic happens. Unless your running around with motion sensor. :)
--- Quote from: avv on December 08, 2012, 04:53:31 pm ---Flexible: more spawns. More spawns mean more assigned sneakers. A team that doesn't dual log can't afford many meaning that some spawns are left unguarded, meaning that attackers do have quite a nice advantage.
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More spawns and more sneakers means it's a lot harder to cover them, all it takes is to clear one of the spawns, lose sight on one of them and it is enough, rest of spawns at the moment could work against third teams as your called "initiators" will know about them and might work in advantage to you as they might start to fight, know situation. :)
Ofcourse those who have grids covered with sneakers have the advantage, but sometimes it's enough to place a sniper or two from possible directions of witch you can get attacked and therefore react fast enough, if you don't have enough sneakers or just don't have them. SoT is SoT, but sometimes we don't have eyes too, just don't have players who provide them, we know how it is to play blind, it's a disadvantage, but nothing game-breaking actually. :)
Just don't fap during all that is key point to remember. ;D
--- Quote from: avv on December 08, 2012, 04:53:31 pm ---Multitasking? Care to explain?
If you have a bluesuit sneak in your team there's 2 explanations: you have one less trooper or you perform a dual log in pvp, which is cheating.
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Multitask if dual log and one or two trooper less, yes. Both, don't call that cheating, it's just an excuse for players who constantly fail at the game. ;D
--- Quote from: avv on December 08, 2012, 04:53:31 pm ---[nitpick]no the defenders are initiators because without them there would be nobody to attack[/nitpick]
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No because is defenders the because attack are the initiators.
Yes, it makes sense, i know.
avv:
--- Quote from: T-888 on December 08, 2012, 05:08:32 pm ---Multitask if dual log and one or two trooper less, yes. Both, don't call that cheating, it's just an excuse for players who constantly fail at the game. ;D
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Doesn't matter what you call it. It's comparable to aimbot in fps game. So if you use aimbot and call others failures, it kind of makes you disqualified to talk about aim-related matters. With same logic it makes you disqualified to talk about scouting if you expect everyone else to use dual log scouts too. Or expect that some feature is fine because you yourself can overcome it with dual log.
T-888:
Until there is anything to prevent that, who the hell cares? Those who want to find a reason not to use dual log and call it cheating and justify the lack of usage by that particular individual, because it against the rules, oh well fuck that, have fun and enjoy the game as it is. It's not made to prevent "cheating." The game doesn't work that way, you can declare all kind of rules writing smart things on forum, if there isn't anything that enforces the rules, it just doesn't have any power.
Current rules, aren't even described properly on the forum. It's just some guy who has a friend saying that a friend heard a developer saying it's against the rules.
Not to mention FR witch provides very similar advantages as dual log, and now players who constantly use FR say that dual logging is cheating, well fuck double-standards.
Guy comes to forum, not going to say witch guy, whines that usage of mercenaries is retarded and stupid and bashes other factions for cheating, because of dual logging, but he fails to realize he can do it with FR and if he does it, it supposed to make him better in some way?
avv:
--- Quote ---It's not made to prevent "cheating." The game doesn't work that way, you can declare all kind of rules writing smart things on forum, if there isn't anything that enforces the rules, it just doesn't have any power.
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I'm not some fan of goodwill or fair play either but think of it like this: If something is declared illegal by the authorities and you still do it, it basically means you're choosing to step on the toes of gm. Gms are pretty nasty foes, they can delete items, bases, permaban characters and their methods can't be resisted or complained of. You chose to mess with them.
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