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Fat Man:
I tried the sharing thing with small group of players I trust, I have tried this T-888 but its too fucking frustrating when you get base raped or some guy uses up all the stuff that somebody elses needs. I don't have the patience any more to share it holds me back than it does setting me foward I play better crafting and farming my gear solo. I shared bases and gear at begining of this session all it did was hold me back.
But what kelin is getting at what most of us feel is we get sick of crafting, farming and getting nothing when you guys keep sending waves of characters to get your stuff back + ours. Last session was better in these regards you would actually walk away with loot after winning a fight not get fast relogged on 5 times and get no reward for killing a few waves.
That was the reward and risk, you died like a noob you lose your gear, you won a fight you get the enemies gear its not like this any more its complete shit. Now its you win a few fights but you still lose the gear anyways because more and more waves just keep coming until its all looted. That isn't the 2238 I once played, this is practically a big fucking troll game at this point.
Hell I mean loot isn't everything if you cannot at least farm your stuff and rely entirely on looting in PvP that is just noobish also, but its getting to point where this game isn't even fun.
maszrum:
ok i understand you. we had symilar problems on beging till people who are playing with us understand that robbing our base is just pointless becouse togher we can have more items they can even imagine, the same as good atmoshpere in team and regular pvp actions - they cant do it alone or with other teams.
complaing about fr is getting really boring. we are not some fr supporters, trust me we dont like it! blaming fr everywere on this forum, in every single topic is fucking annoying, maybe your problem is somewere else? NO OFFENCE but from my perspective you just have some tactical/organisation problems. with good idea how to play different scenarios in tc you dont really need so many alts for fasterelog. sometimes you have good idea but wors with exection that plan, some of your guys are totaly undisciplined. play better - loot more.
T-888:
--- Quote from: Kelin on November 14, 2012, 05:13:07 pm ---You know I'm not crying, I'm not bitching or something. It's obvious that everybody will do everything to be the best, that's ok. Hell I don't even like winning at all cost, zero challenge means zero fun (reminds me good old times under the most powerful TTTLA alliance before we split).
TC isn't fair, never was. I understand this. What I don't understand is that in this game the rich get richer and the poor get poorer constantly. Is this some variation of Minecraft? Who crafts more, wins? Who grinds more is better pvp player? So far it seems so.
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What?
Winning at all cost is an challenge, at least should be. Especially for a faction like Hawks, no offense, but your constantly loosing in every fight, therefore the equipment drains away. It doesn't matter if you beat some wave of us or someone else, but if you can't fight to the end, you never get the loot. It has nothing to do with rich gangs getting richer, it is the fittest who get richer, those who pull out victories at fighting, there is so much loot in these large fights.
--- Quote from: Kelin on November 14, 2012, 05:13:07 pm ---We were trying to think as a whole group, it never worked in our case. At the end there is always at least one person who destroys everything. We would end up 5 people that trust each other sharing one base but what for? We need everyone to be prepared, to have more waves, stuff. In our conditions it's nearly impossible.
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It is very important, even if those are only 5 guys. I'd call it, actually we call it the core of team, it's the milestone of success, you can interpret that many ways, they need to be well prepared. Each faction has some sort of core, players whom has a higher impact on the outcome of the battle, those who bring in more than just one alt to fight with, those with whom you don't wish to fight without. That will include players who provide scouting, good leadership and extra utilities as mercenaries, C4 bombing, anything that puts them on top of the food chain.
It's a game, don't feel bad about "cheating" to achieve something, have fun.
If you can gather the most trustworthy players in one base, that is a start even if they are 5, then bases near each city to organize alts faster, to re-gear faster and have a place to drop the loot once you get it. The session goes on for a very long time, you don't need to be stuck at the computer screen for the rest of your life to do that, you just need to do something once in a while and in the end it's going to be great improvement. Otherwise the game is to harsh for you, richest get richer and etc. etc.
If you'd organize and compete, we'd love that.
--- Quote from: Kelin on November 14, 2012, 05:13:07 pm ---And btw I think SoT had this "communism system" long time before you joined. It's very easy to join established system but come to our gang and try the same system - I'm telling you, it would be fail. Everything in this game is highly based on trust.
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Need to be smart about it, it's doable. It also highly depends on what players you let in, get to know the players and play with them for a while before you let them, don't trust anyone on right away or lay faith on him completely once a while has passed, it's like giving a "fake base" of loot and telling the player it's our main and put something valuable there, but not too much and if you loose something it is going to be small price to pay for one less idiot of who you know to avoid. Those are just some random examples that comes in my mind, you must be creative to pull of this, also time is of importance. Can't expect to do something like that right away.
jacky.:
--- Quote from: maszrum on November 14, 2012, 06:10:58 pm ---sometimes you have good idea but wors with exection that plan, some of your guys are totaly undisciplined. play better - loot more.
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agree but i wont point with my finger who are they...today i heard from one of them "it is his decision if he will listen to you or not"...so hawks have 4-5total noobs who dont listen anyone and they run away if they see enemy...this is reason why we are loosing. hawks have many good players but small ammount of "runners" are ruining they plan.
Fat Man:
--- Quote from: jacky. on November 14, 2012, 07:35:34 pm ---agree but i wont point with my finger who are they...today i heard from one of them "it is his decision if he will listen to you or not"...so hawks have 4-5total noobs who dont listen anyone and they run away if they see enemy...this is reason why we are loosing. hawks have many good players but small ammount of "runners" are ruining they plan.
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Besmrtnik isn't core hawk player, why you think he got muted?
Don't feel bad I got the usual crit miss bull shit that only happends when you shoot tttla at broken hills which really pissed me off but what else is new right? It just takes patience to deal with the bull shit we go through. The game doesn't favor us it never will.
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