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Pancor Jackhammer :
avv:
--- Quote from: McLooter on October 14, 2012, 05:39:22 am ---I change my mind, I think it should have knockback instead. 50% or 100%, this gun is deserves it, shotguns have never been anything good for PvP. However, for PvE, in its current state, I do think it's okay. I also think it would be fair since frags have 100% knockdown/knockback chance, and only 4 AP is required with BRoF.
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Even though 100% kd chance seems rational, the gun will never kill anyone except lowhp bluesuits.
A possible solution on top of the guaranteed knockdown for burst would be that the gun deteriorates armor like 5 times faster than any other weapon. After few successful bursts you start doing real good damage.
codave:
--- Quote from: Roachor on October 14, 2012, 03:30:49 am ---double the range and it could be useful, short of that shotguns are the unwanted middle child of small guns. Also whoever decided shotguns are short range is an idiot, shotguns are effective at up to 120 feet.
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In this game, shotguns aren't even effective at 5 feet, so it probably doesn't matter much.
Just pretend they gave us #9 shot, and find a rifle.
I would be okay with giving shotguns a buff, it will only help the PvE players anyway.
Brujah:
--- Quote from: codave on October 16, 2012, 07:52:19 am ---I would be okay with giving shotguns a buff, it will only help the PvE players anyway.
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Even if they were buffed to a point where it's burst is almost comparable to assault rifles and FALs, people would still use the rifles due to ammo hardly ever being a problem with these guns, so a 10-12 bullet burst compared to 3 shells burst is not that big deal.
We could get some perks like "Shotgun doctor" from fallout tactics (after extensive testing so people don't create massive shotgun troll builds) and maybe spreading the burst of the gun a little bit... Though bursting more than 4 targets woud still be innefective and more than that is just unrealistic.
I'd vote for increasing the base damage of the pancor higher than the assault rifle while leaving the other shotguns that are way too easy to find to be worth a buff alone.
brad smalls:
the knock down would be good
Disease:
Glad to see some shotgun love <3 !!
actually, really glad about a few changes I've seen since I got back from work.
The containers are pro and the weight % is even more pro, so gratz on these changes!
Maybe someday traps will be able to be laid with the pancor, but one can only dream :P
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