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Changelog 10/10/2012

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DeputyDope:

--- Quote from: AdolphbinStalin on October 12, 2012, 05:08:43 pm ---With 140 AC I am getting hit hard and killed within 25 hexes- not even getting close to be able to utilize power fists; that by the way only do average 40 damage/hit.
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ONLY 40 damage a hit? wow they should make 9999 damage a hit then. just for the sake of it. maybe you should change your game style and stick to close range and not charge snipers when you're unarmed. just sayin'.


--- Quote from: AdolphbinStalin on October 12, 2012, 05:08:43 pm ---Whats worst the update totally ruined PvE farming (and jinxed is not even used for PvE). Basically the build is useless in both PvP and PvE (when i say PvE I mean high reward encounters not some shitty raiders with spears).

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well maybe you should stop killing BOS with bluesuit and get some proper 3x brd burster TB character with m60/avenger and do it like pros do it. there's plenty of good pve builds on forum. update ruined pve farming? HOW ABOUT PREVIOUS UPDATE THAT RUINED PVP?


--- Quote from: AdolphbinStalin on October 12, 2012, 05:08:43 pm ---Cool story bro \(^_^)/

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check the character planner for the bonus hth perks and stfu and stop wasting bytes on this forum.

AdolphbinStalin:

--- Quote from: racoon on October 12, 2012, 05:12:15 pm ---AdolphbinStalin make simple fast shoter for ew/bg/sg and farm any encounter you want. and stop crying about heavy handed and ac

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Yeah no biggie I am leveling up one right now. Just saying it would be nice to have more variety by not destroying HH builds.

DeputyDope:

--- Quote from: AdolphbinStalin on October 12, 2012, 05:30:21 pm ---Yeah no biggie I am leveling up one right now. Just saying it would be nice to have more variety by not destroying HH builds.

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but before there was no variety AT ALL. and all the other builds were destroyed.

Yuri Boyka:

--- Quote from: DeputyDope on October 12, 2012, 04:06:23 pm ---omfg pre-wipe there were STILL unarmed players despite it being not that "op" and guess what? it was very effective back then too. now you need to use tactics to rush with power fist and maybe use armor and tank-like perk to be effective and not make some fucking cheap-ass build that can kill fully armed/armored players.
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i play pre-wipe, and play HtH pre-wipe. remember what HtH were used to? little tournaments in cow pens in Redding. sometime Hinkley. no player use it for real PvP.


--- Quote from: DeputyDope on October 12, 2012, 04:06:23 pm ---now you need to use tactics to rush with power fist and maybe use armor and tank-like perk to be effective and not make some fucking cheap-ass build that can kill fully armed/armored players.

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i agree AC not enough now, need other defenses. its ok, its fair. that is i have saying.


--- Quote from: DeputyDope on October 12, 2012, 04:06:23 pm ---you died to my characters in reno because i have high enough skill on my characters to take you down, and i change my aim to body parts with highest hit chance.
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exacttly, it is simple. i died always to lasers or veterans SGuns which know where shoot.


--- Quote from: DeputyDope on October 12, 2012, 04:06:23 pm ---you ask for the AC to go back to 160-180 and i bet (and im 95% sure that i'll win) that your build has EXACTLY 180 AC.

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exactly. and i think 180 is too much AC. 2h ago, i test with friend shoot me, and with 140AC every shot from hunting/sniper at 25hex or less hit me. did not try other SG. with (low quality) BG it was little better, but also easy. so difference between 180 and 140AC is huge. after mine short tests, i think 160AC fair. maybe Devs or GMs could talk of theyr tests.

and like Avv say, ofc HtH can be trolls, but not if reduce AC and %KD. but 140 and -5 malus are, i say again, too much reduction.


--- Quote from: DeputyDope on October 12, 2012, 05:14:17 pm ---maybe you should change your game style and stick to close range and not charge snipers when you're unarmed. just sayin'.
well maybe you should stop killing BOS with bluesuit and get some proper 3x brd burster TB character with m60/avenger and do it like pros do it. there's plenty of good pve builds on forum. update ruined pve farming? HOW ABOUT PREVIOUS UPDATE THAT RUINED PVP?
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i agree wit everything you sayd. but making AC HtH fair =/= killing AC HtH.

Roachor:
it should be a flat % to dodge instead of all or nothing like the last system

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