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Author Topic: What is 2238 right now ?  (Read 9022 times)

Alexandrite

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2012, 06:33:07 pm »

Not to mention game offline a lot often, not enough players, people using dual logging to kill town guards, OP NPCs sometimes, not enough/too much of fixes --> like stupid fixes(AC trolls, HtH) and good fixes(NOPE)...

Yeah, come get me devs...
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Kinkin

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 02:53:41 pm »

So sad.... And we aren't here just for whinning, we're attached to this game, if not weren't here.


Is there a pilot on this plane ? Please devs, let us support you.
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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 03:00:34 pm »

Better than long speech :

http://www.rookie.name/fonline/playerStats.php?r=year&s=1348466014&ts=0&ar=0&step=3

We need roll back to 2/3 sessions in the pasts.
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DanteAligheri

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 03:05:19 pm »

This whole thing kind of makes me sad. Well, more sad. The cherry on top at most.
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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 03:30:41 pm »

FOnline should be on Steam Greenlight.
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Shangalar

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 06:11:41 pm »

Some news on the devblog about future direction of the game, what is WIP and availability of devs would be great, but we ask since years and except some frankly good articles, nothing promising for a long time now, and surely not the most necessary. Devs are normal people, they advanced in their life but it seems they didn't take the time to be sure their baby would still be followed. We got two new devs for a few months, but I must say I don't know much about their tasks, possibilities, or freedom of action.

And if someone could explain to me why devs dont perform an update when they fixed something, that would be welcome. I don't see the point of such method, except getting shitloads of flame and more challenge to fix bugs when they encounter any after some giant update once a year.

Oh, and another thing while I'm here : who is paying the host nowadays, huh ? You, the purest soul of the Wastes, who won Lotto  and throwing your money regularly, confident for the future, discretely in a dark alley without receiving any consideration, identify yourself !
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Pryszczu666

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 06:37:29 pm »

There wouldn't be a problem if the game wasn't being centered around PvP for a year or so now, all those retarded rage-teens running around with gattlings in BA's showing how hardcore they are with their 1CHA strict PK'ing overpowered builds *sighs*
I played since 2009 and i spend every time i had roaming through forum, trying to catch up to game reading useful stuff, now Im roaming on forum only because I wish to see one day a topic called WIPE 2012/09/24 day after day date changes but all i can see is a Patch note since month which brought nothing useful, ofc. we have now super duper sweet CA Mk. II Radios yayyy how cool ima so happy i hope there will be a person which will use this feature some time soon, cause the only server trafic are Hawks or other super-duper overpowered group of pro zombie players just checking in are they still in control of all towns. Warning: This game is not about f**king tearing to shreds everything in front and around You & every smart ass that says otherwise is just very intolerant and its very sad and... I wish he burn in hell for eternity :(
Here just a few points i wish to make:

1. ONE character per player, there are ways preventing multi-accounts like every registration with some background story are sent to people placed to check 'em.
2. NO 01 STATS Having a character with either stat =1 has a serious negative influence making him seriously retarded
3. MORE Quests, group missions - So few of them, I don't believe there wouldn't be a whole bunch of players that's intrested in helping making 'em.
4. LESS Or no high-lvl weapons which ruin real hardcore post-apocaliptic game feeling which ofc. this game should have.
5. NO POWER BUILDS one character can't be only focusing on guns, I understand that if You like shooting at people You take SG, BG, EW + FA + DOC but there should be a variety of skills that certain person has, be a good fighter but with some crafting skill or a HtH fighter with science & repair knowledge etc.
You went far, far away from original game, don't forget what was fallout about, STORY before slaughtering everything.

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 06:52:15 pm »

AC and heavy handed is awesome, seriously though unless you are an npc or a single player that build isn't dangerous at all. Not to mention if you want ac and HH you can't have max ac and jinxed, but since you ladies never ACTUALLY TRY MAKING THE BUILD please continue your trail of tears. Pryszczu666 your ideas are terrible, 1 char per player in a game that demands an alt for every task? I feel bad for the poor bastard stuck with a bp hunter doing nothing for the rest of the season.
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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 07:06:08 pm »

There wouldn't be a problem if the game wasn't being centered around PvP for a year or so now, all those retarded rage-teens running around with gattlings in BA's showing how hardcore they are with their 1CHA strict PK'ing overpowered builds *sighs*

It's not players fault that our character creation encourages minmaxing.

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Warning: This game is not about f**king tearing to shreds everything in front and around You & every smart ass that says otherwise is just very intolerant and its very sad and...

So basically you yourself don't tolerate a certain playstyle but everyone who disagrees with you are intolerant.

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1. ONE character per player, there are ways preventing multi-accounts like every registration with some background story are sent to people placed to check 'em.

Anyone can cook up background stories. And what if someone is so poor at writing them that the ones checking the stories wouldn't believe it?

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2. NO 01 STATS Having a character with either stat =1 has a serious negative influence making him seriously retarded


This encourages cheating even further because players would have to compensate for their character's losses by making alts. This is how it's currently going. Charisma 1 character can't trade so barter alt is made.

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3. MORE Quests, group missions - So few of them, I don't believe there wouldn't be a whole bunch of players that's intrested in helping making 'em.

By all means but players have tendency to use multilog to pass these quests. All the current quests we have highly encourage multilog.

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4. LESS Or no high-lvl weapons which ruin real hardcore post-apocaliptic game feeling which ofc. this game should have.

In fallout 2 we had encounters with equipment that aren't available even now. NCR caravans had G11, some raiders had laser rifles, san fran caravans had avengers. The world of fallout is violent and gun-packed, nothing to it.

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5. NO POWER BUILDS one character can't be only focusing on guns, I understand that if You like shooting at people You take SG, BG, EW + FA + DOC but there should be a variety of skills that certain person has, be a good fighter but with some crafting skill or a HtH fighter with science & repair knowledge etc.

Then the game has to encourage us to make characters like this. Having artificial boundaries to prevent alt-making is not an encouragement but an invitation to cheat.

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STORY before slaughtering everything.

It was?
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Pryszczu666

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 07:14:24 pm »

AC and heavy handed is awesome, seriously though unless you are an npc or a single player that build isn't dangerous at all. Not to mention if you want ac and HH you can't have max ac and jinxed, but since you ladies never ACTUALLY TRY MAKING THE BUILD please continue your trail of tears. Pryszczu666 your ideas are terrible, 1 char per player in a game that demands an alt for every task? I feel bad for the poor bastard stuck with a bp hunter doing nothing for the rest of the season.

Why does the game demand an alt for every task ? You can create a character that is able to do quest, have decent outdoorsman, can craft and stand a decent fight, this is what Im talking about everyone being everything, one man and shitload of alts army makes game easy, and what is a game without decent level of difficulty ?
Can't You agree to be a one cog in whole machinery that runs game ? You provide, he refines and they produce is what this game need, a dependencity on other to provide their skills & vice-versa You providing specialization to them, Roachor.
Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2012, 07:25:35 pm »

After the taste we got of Fast Relog and Dual Log, i am afraid the game will become unplayable if we remove it.
It's like removing Hinkley, TC town, Combat skills, Faction bases or all the quest. What would be the point ? Make playerbase join another server ?
I also remind there was already a vote about it.
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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2012, 07:27:32 pm »

Sure you can, but he'll suck at everything. Questing is barely a feature, pvp without a pvp build means you will die every time with no chance to even hurt your enemies. Your ideas aren't feasible. Hell I need an alt just to get gear in hinkley/check for other players for my pvp builds.
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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2012, 07:34:33 pm »

Why does the game demand an alt for every task ? You can create a character that is able to do quest, have decent outdoorsman, can craft and stand a decent fight, this is what Im talking about everyone being everything, one man and shitload of alts army makes game easy, and what is a game without decent level of difficulty ?

It's about using the best methods. Making a hybrid character is less profitable and effective than making a specialized alt. Barter or repair alt will never see battle and combat alt will never repair. Thus there's not tradeoff. You can't demand players to play against how the mechanics encourage them to.

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Can't You agree to be a one cog in whole machinery that runs game ? You provide, he refines and they produce is what this game need, a dependencity on other to provide their skills & vice-versa You providing specialization to them.

People are unreliable. Alts are much handier. They are available when you want, they work as much as you want and do exactly like you tell them to. Unless devs somehow fix other players so that they can be made to work like alts, there will be no chance in alt question.
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Pryszczu666

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2012, 07:45:57 pm »

It's not players fault that our character creation encourages minmaxing.
That is true...
So basically you yourself don't tolerate a certain playstyle but everyone who disagrees with you are intolerant.
I do tolerate, but there should be certain boundries, don't You think ?
Anyone can cook up background stories. And what if someone is so poor at writing them that the ones checking the stories wouldn't believe it?
Then let him has these few characters, in time someone will find out about it and he will loose every last one of them...
If You can't write story then You just say so something could be worked out, best would be tying game to forum account.
This encourages cheating even further because players would have to compensate for their character's losses by making alts. This is how it's currently going. Charisma 1 character can't trade so barter alt is made.
Why compensating in first place when You're told alts are breaking game rules and why making characters with 01 stats when You can make decent medium builds, not maxed out
By all means but players have tendency to use multilog to pass these quests. All the current quests we have highly encourage multilog.
Because they can and because they're greedy never feeling filled enough.
In fallout 2 we had encounters with equipment that aren't available even now. NCR caravans had G11, some raiders had laser rifles, san fran caravans had avengers. The world of fallout is violent and gun-packed, nothing to it.
We can always say that the game is set in times that the guns were not created yet or just not use 'em, lastly there always is a nerf tool ;)
Then the game has to encourage us to make characters like this. Having artificial boundaries to prevent alt-making is not an encouragement but an invitation to cheat.
You have to ask Yourself an important question: What would Jesus do ? Would he play on proxy ? Or PK ? Troll maybe ? I personally believe he would do a role-play...
LOL be a man, there is always an easy-p*ssy way, cheater way.
It was?
Yes, it was but Im not sure if You played it fully or You just did a speed run of main story running first to navaro for APA then, just shooting through enemies in front of You

Pryszczu666

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Re: What is 2238 right now ?
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2012, 08:02:33 pm »

It's about using the best methods. Making a hybrid character is less profitable and effective than making a specialized alt. Barter or repair alt will never see battle and combat alt will never repair. Thus there's not tradeoff. You can't demand players to play against how the mechanics encourage them to.
Look at this from other angle...
Hybrid is worst then sepecialized character but... You can't make specialized one ! that's why You have to live with hybrid and if You have to relay on trade with others to let's say get a gun then u give away armor and everyone is happy and gets what he wants, other players will have to live by the same rules u do, don't you think ? And thats why you won't get pwnd'ed in combat because everyone will be weaker , ofc. some that lets say are more combat oriented will have an advantage but still not a crushing one.
People are unreliable. Alts are much handier. They are available when you want, they work as much as you want and do exactly like you tell them to. Unless devs somehow fix other players so that they can be made to work like alts, there will be no chance in alt question.
So people don't trade ? They will just hoard shitload of one kind items runing around like mindless baboons biting each other throats cause one will not sell 1 of bazilion of his sniper rifles he crafted to the other baboon who won't give the 2nd baboon an metal armor his cleaver red ass made etc. ?
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