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Nice_Boat:
I find it funny that people who were banned for FR/dl/FOCD are now against dual logs and are attacking Kilgore who wasn't banned during the 2010 ban wave. Come on, it's the internet, shit posted once stays on forever - nobody forgot what happened back then. The towns aren't empty because of how PvP works, they're empty because of 2 years of tiresome out of combat gameplay (crafting, gathering, farming), bullshit balance changes like Parley or random nerfs/buffs and hilariously broken new TC mechanic every new season.
Now, here's a good reason why the devs shouldn't even read this thread: every single time this community disagrees on something, there's a 99% chance somebody's pushing his faction's politics or even his own personal agenda. It's been that way with weapon balance with people getting raped by a certain weapon crying for a nerf, right now it's the same with fast relogs and dual logs. I guarantee you at least half of the people saying that FR/DL = cheats are hypocrites who simply want to limit access to these features and will start exploiting 3rd party tools and/or dynamic IPs to get an edge once the devs give in. It was the same with the weapon nerf/buff circle - same people complaining first about BGs (because they got killed by BGs), than after a nerf about SGs (because suddenly they still get owned but their opressors had to switch to SGs due to bullshit nerf), than about BGs again... you get the drift.
The message here is simple - stop trying to dick around with game balance, the only things that deserve to be scrapped are things that everyone, even people gaining notoriety in using them complain about - like SD nades or AC trolls. Even then, it should be a last resort, not a knee jerk reaction. You're just wasting the devs' time here, instead of helping you with your petty nerf/buff politics they could be working on stuff that'd make this game more playable for newcomers and smaller factions, which would mean more players and more action in PvP in the future.
And before somebody says that using multiple alts places the entry barrier too high for smaller teams - that's total brahmin crap and you know it. People who can't enter PvP are limited by the numbers of their faction, not by the number of their alts. Most of them actually have enough or more to bring it in, they just lack the organization to make an impact. Besides given the level cap it takes like 2 days to level up a character on 2238, building 6 alts is still less time consuming than finalizing a single build in most other mmos. Domination mode would be a good way of getting rid of that problem, unfortunately we got influence based TC and Reno sewers (which incidentally is probably the best map on the server that will never see a lot of use) instead.
The punchline is simple - if you're losing, it's not due to FR/DL/crit too strong/BG too strong. Actually, the odds are high that you'd still be losing even if you had the monopoly on designing this stuff... so just stop it, it's painful to read this same old shit wrapped in a different paper every other week.
Killer Rabbit:
let them cry...everyone use it (i was when i was playing) and every time when someone lost he blame CANADA or other shit. he will never admit i was worst and i need to inprove my PiViPi skrillllllex...
Shangalar:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on September 18, 2012, 11:08:33 am ---Goddamn speech.
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Amen to everything you've said.
Cyber Jesus:
I would also like to report this ''dual log'' user
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May justice be served!
avv:
--- Quote ---Now, here's a good reason why the devs shouldn't even read this thread: every single time this community disagrees on something, there's a 99% chance somebody's pushing his faction's politics or even his own personal agenda.
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So what if someone is pushing his own agenda if he has a point? When talking about mechanics it's pretty easy to point out flaws if there's something wrong. Things like realism, what makes sense, what's fun and what's reasonable are harder to discuss. Farming volume is a good example of what's reasonable. Instadeaths have to do with what's fun.
--- Quote ---The punchline is simple - if you're losing, it's not due to FR/DL/crit too strong/BG too strong.
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But you can't achieve victories with regular rate without them against teams who use them.
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