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Author Topic: Wondering Aiming  (Read 1652 times)

Handyman

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Wondering Aiming
« on: March 15, 2010, 11:11:29 pm »

i suggest, or ask...

would it be possiable to add aiming as there is in Fallout Tactics?  i mean you press where should it be aimed, and you just click on attack, and automaticly will aim eyes as shot, i know it add sniper big advantage but will rise their survivility....

nothing special *Smiles*
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 11:22:15 pm »

some <unknown> players have "aimbots" admins cannot detect them.. my idea is to allow or implent these aimbots and give 1 second delay between click and shot
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 11:43:26 pm »

There were some topics about it already and as I have figured out so far, a lot of people think that having to click twice instead of once in order to shoot is so much about thinking and tactics that it's a great no-no.

Generally yeah, sure +1 for the idea but I'm pretty certain it would require the game engine modyfication and unfortunately 2238 devs can't do much about it.
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 11:54:23 pm »

we should look how to find and ban cheaters, not how to make all people to cheat.
Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 12:29:51 am »

we should look how to find and ban cheaters, not how to make all people to cheat.

If EVERY player cheats in the same way then it stops being a cheat and becomes a feature.

Now more seriously: It would be perfect if players didn't use bots/autoclickers/autoaims etc. NOT because they are not allowed to, but because the game is designed the way that they don't need them to enjoy playing.

I believe it will happen some day.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 12:31:42 am by Elmehdi »
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 12:34:01 am »

some <unknown> players have "aimbots" admins cannot detect them.. my idea is to allow or implent these aimbots and give 1 second delay between click and shot

 I suggest add 2 seconds of waiting time between click on enemy and first burts by minigun. The gun must get ready to fire position, circle all barrels.... .
 
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 07:54:47 am »

Lordus remember Parle ?, won't work
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 08:13:20 am »

I agree that some compensation could be done to slow players. E.g. possibility set character to aggressive mod, and then hi will attack everyone he see (even teammates or npc). If character try to move, this mode is reset. People will not use it often, but guarding houses will become easier and more tactical. Snipers in fields, and biggunners in houses will get small advantage over moving targets.
Also many players will start hiding in houses alone, as they will always make first shot to thouse who run outside.
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2010, 10:12:27 am »

Lordus remember Parle ?, won't work

 i did not mean it seriously.. johny n is natural biggunner and he hates if any sniper kills him, because he dont want to understand, that snipers have knockdowns and knockouts in oposite of 3 bursts per round by biggunner.

 so i add nonsense suggestion in respons of his nonsense suggestion.

 i prefer shortcuts which you can use as i sniper.. you will have to use more than one click bigguners, so they will still have advantage on their side.
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 10:29:41 am »

Let's make it clear. Interface in FOnline is horrible in many ways - including PvP combat in real-time.
Combat in F1 and F2 was turn-based so interface that was made there was working well. In your turn you had time to plan your moves, select all things you wanted, open inventory, scroll list, aim at any part of body you would like to etc etc. Now in real-time in FOnline players don't have really much time to open inventory each time they want to use superstimpaks or open big-ass aiming window and then click on tiny button. It's well known that because of that some players are using ways to cheat with packets or programs that make manipulaiting in their inventory or aiming faster and easier. Staff of FOnline says that it's cheating and it's bad but I don't know if there was at least one player that was banned for that.
What most of players, that play in real time PvP, suggest is making shortcuts and other tweaks that would eleminate benefits of other players from cheating and in result all players would have equal chances.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 10:34:46 am by RJ »
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 03:59:34 pm »

I suggest add 2 seconds of waiting time between click on enemy and first burts by minigun. The gun must get ready to fire position, circle all barrels.... .
 
i did not mean it seriously.. johny n is natural biggunner and he hates if any sniper kills him, because he dont want to understand, that snipers have knockdowns and knockouts in oposite of 3 bursts per round by biggunner.

 so i add nonsense suggestion in respons of his nonsense suggestion.

 i prefer shortcuts which you can use as i sniper.. you will have to use more than one click bigguners, so they will still have advantage on their side.
No flame here please just my react for Lordus attack.

Being knocked out "n" killed from nowhere is a bit sad imo. U forgot how u and other 2 VSBs were killed by 1 sniper ? You really think its harder to burst someone than Snipe him to eyes from 50 Hexes ?If u made only few Knock outs from your sniper.. its not my problem u have bad sniper. about 3 bursts.. 2jet sniper have 2 eyeshots per turn. But u know we are arguing about that all time and I really dont know why u atatcked me here. This my post here which u furiously attacked was only about Aim bots and how to balance imperceptible cheaters with ..**==>REGULAR FAIR Fonline players<==**.. using simulated Targeting (clicking) delay. It needn't be 1 sec, it can be 0,5....

PS: Johnny N , Big "J", double "n" ,and big "N" for Nuclear.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 04:15:14 pm by Johnny Nuclear »
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Re: Wondering Aiming
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 07:24:04 pm »

stop flame or lock, get back please to subject, : fallout tactics like aiming can be added or cannot ?
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