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[Jack Wagon]

But you only need to state what's being worked on and what's being planned. If you had asked the players before removing ac cap, we could have been spared from lots of grief. Then again of course some clueless people will say nothing bad will happen and limitless ac is fine. Asking players for feedback depends on who you ask.

No no they have had enough feed back from players, we have played and test this game long enough it is time for them to do it themselves. So I still put my challenge out there and would like a thread or some blog about the developers experience starting level 1 and trying to make their way up to having a base and crafting and obtaining a few top noche items. Also the rule of this challenge, no begging other players for brahmin hides for the first tent. I want them to experience the game way I experienced it from the first hour of the wipe, blue suit no other players to give you brahmin hides and trying to make their way to where we are now. Is this not a good challenge? I am not trolling I really want you guys from the developer team to try this. Then maybe we won't say such nasty things when you insult everybody saying we whine and cry baby too much?

[Wiktor_pl]

Well, nobody is brave enough to do such a thread, because the first 10 pages will be about how much devs suck and that everything is shit and the remaining pages, before the thread is locked, will be a random flamewar.

Well, it is true that players know the game from the other side than you and it can be valuable for you.
For ex., if you would said about planned upcoming AC cap removal, problem with 220AC trolls could be discovered (and i think most probably would be discovered) before even implementing it ingame - cause everyone would start to check by using FCP what kind of chars you can possibly build with this feature and you, devs, would be warned - less time wasted.

I know that you got your own ideas etc., but sometimes its good to have someone who look "from the other side". Isnt your purpose is to make this game as best as it is possible?
Its you working on this game and its your child, nobody can tell you how to raise your kid, but if you will start keep your child at home isolated it will become weird and sociopathic.

But beside this, there was a time where we communicated such stuff on our blog.

Whats the problem with getting these good times back?

About trolls and flamers: well, Moderators should delete every posts that dont bring any ideas and is made only to flame and whine.

[Trokanis]

I don't for a second believe the Dev's suck.  I know that no one can see every possible outcome of changes to a game.  The Dev's do this in their free time, but there will always be noobs who want to blame everything on someone.  I just wish the Dev's could take a deep breath and get back to the old days when communication actually worked.  I've seen many good ideas, *and no not all of them mine* get lost in a pile of troll/flame/noob BS which is not fair to the person who thought it up or the Dev's who might have wanted to look at it. 

The Changelog this refers to is proof the Dev's at least try and see through all the BS, and as much as some of us including me would like instant fixes to things, that just isn't reasonable.  I really don't want to wait til next wipe to have some of the things fixed, but I am willing to be patient for those who can't just drop everything to work on this game.  I just think it would be helpful if we had a little bit more chatter between the Dev's and us to know if either something suggested or a topic we're talking about just isn't ever gonna happen or not.  That way those of us who actually care can either find a new solution to whatever the topic was or move on.

[T-888]

Well, nobody is brave enough to do such a thread, because the first 10 pages will be about how much devs suck and that everything is shit and the remaining pages, before the thread is locked, will be a random flamewar.

But beside this, there was a time where we communicated such stuff on our blog.

But you only need to state what's being worked on and what's being planned.

Players can discuss work being done on separate topics, that could save you some time implementing features without major flaws that otherwise would need extra work to balance out, think of it as an investment, you spend a little bit of time providing some comments on what is getting done and profit in long term.

[avv]

For example when Solar revealed that tc could have to do with herding brahmins or doing pve to take the town, it was shot down because tc players didn't want to do those things. Lots of work spared.

[Lexx]

I never even heard of that tc idea before now.

[BOS Armorer]

Damnit, if the devs never heard it, someone must have started bullsh*tting around 

[Shangalar]

If devs dont even talk with each other, people, don't expect them to talk with you xD

[Lexx]

We talk with each other, but the above mentioned idea could also have been something Solar was just toying around with. We all have such ideas, but never do anything serious with it.

[Shangalar]

Many people would answer that they really hope he was just kidding

[naossano]

To bad we have not the playerbase that would suit to dev ideas.
This TC system would be awesome and immersive.

[BOS Armorer]

Heh. Devs, why exactly do you nerf random things? Not sure whether it's that or just luck, but i don't get half as much stuff from sciencing on the same char as i used to...but some of the other ideas are good. Problem is, not many of the good ideas MAKE it into the game  While there is still no AC cap, I may as well go play around with an ac troll, see what happens

[McBorn]

It seems, that you lose people again. GJ

[Horatio]

All of a sudden the FOnline.exe stopped working, while the previous version was fine.
Are you going to update?

[JovankaB]

All of a sudden the FOnline.exe stopped working, while the previous version was fine.
Are you going to update?

Did you try CLEAN INSTALLATION of my version of client from here?:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3880395/2238/FOnline2238.zip
note: this file was updated a few days after update.