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Change the way town npcs behave

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John Porno:
so jotisz, when was the last time you played a bg in reno?

Jotisz:

--- Quote ---And when the npc tries to "make" the player to step back, he bursts the whole town.
In many situations players just have to stand next to npc for a while.
Think about it like this: if tc towns and reno were made to have pvp in them why should there be features that hinder the pvp activity? Don't let npc mess with players in situations where players don't want to mess with npc.
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The player must stand next to npc for a while I don't get what situation would be like that beside when someone goes for getting the burst or nade to hit the npcs. Well maybe stealing would go here too but it wouldn't be impossible to do. I mean its already quite easy to steal ammo from some patrols even without being part of their groups.
Anyway making them into some non reacting scenery that stays in one place and give no reaction for getting shot is surely not an idea I like.
I liked what naossano wrote and I think making them into some scenery that is just there is a wrong thing to do.


--- Quote ---so jotisz, when was the last time you played a bg in reno?
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I only played burster chars in Reno this season. Though I got to admit that the last time I was in Reno to fight was weeks ago.

naossano:

--- Quote from: avv on July 17, 2012, 07:10:32 pm ---If someone wanted to kill her and keep her that way, it's possible even now. But nobody does it. Problem is not that people want key/random npcs dead in unsafe towns, but that they do it accidentally.

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The fact that they keep doing it allow me to think that the consequences are too low to be taken into account by these players. If the consequences would be harsher, they wouldn't do it, or be more cautious.

In terms of gameplay, they tends to be considered as object, but in universe, they are real people. If you shoot real people, there should be consequences. You can't just say "i bursted your little child by mistake, so piss off". They shouldn't be concerned if strangers (players) shoot each other (except in some cities), but they should certainly be pissed off if you shoot their familly, co-workers, neighbours... even by mistake, it doesn't excuse for the killing or deep injuries. Even in term of pvp the environnement should be more active in the process. Better have npc who do their part, and impact in the battlefield, than almost invisible object, that happen to look like people...

avv:

--- Quote from: Jotisz on July 18, 2012, 03:12:34 pm ---The player must stand next to npc for a while I don't get what situation would be like that beside when someone goes for getting the burst or nade to hit the npcs.
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You honestly can't think of any? Dude, if you don't know about the subject completely maybe you shouldn't talk about it.

Some rooms for example are so small that you simply can't avoid being next to npc.
Sometimes you have to have a team formation that involves spreading out and standing next to npcs.
Occasionally standing next to npc for a while is sneak's only way to be safe, I'd facepalm hard if this npc got mad at my sneak, desneaked it and made me die because I stood next to it.

Do you even know why the safety zone for npcs was added? So that players couldn't onehex, steal or plant explosives on the encounter npcs so easily. Unsafe town npcs do not hand out loot, so they don't need such protection.


--- Quote ---Anyway making them into some non reacting scenery that stays in one place and give no reaction for getting shot is surely not an idea I like.
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You don't like it why? You said yourself you were in reno one week ago, I was there yesterday. So how can the unresponsive npcs bother you if you are not involved with them?


--- Quote ---I liked what naossano wrote and I think making them into some scenery that is just there is a wrong thing to do.
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They could just run for their life as far as they can when players with intimidating gear appear. That's what players who want to live do too.

falloutdude:
they just get in the way and run around and get in the way. remove them or nerf them its really annoying.

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