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[Gimper]

I'm working on a melee crippler build. Need some critics here. Let me know what you all think.

Str - 10
Pe - 1
En - 8
Ch - 1
Int - 4
Agi - 10
Lk - 10
Bruiser, for good melee dmg, and finesse for more crits.
20 % crit chance at lvl 1.

Tags are SG, Melee, and OD
Your probably wondering why I chose small guns, The reason Is, with 100% small guns, you can get more criticals, CritChance-25%
And with 125 SG, you get even more criticals. So level 6 i will have 35% crit chance.
I will never use small guns, but i need the skill for crits. Also, at level 9, i will get bonus hth damage +, giving me 15% more crit chance with melee, = 50% normal crit chance. So this is how the crit chance will be

Eyes - 95%
Head - 90%
Groin - 80%
Arms - 80%
Legs - 70%
Regular (torso) - 50%

At level 24 I'll have 173 hp. Unless i choose to get life giver, but I may get action boy x2 and bonus hth attacks. So ill be good for real time or turn based combat.
 If i pick life givers, ill have 263 hp at lvl 24, but low Action points. And ill defiantly end up with in your face.
LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK PLEASE!!!

[Roachor]

Gun crit perks don't work for hth, haymaker already adds 15% crit. 10 luck is 70% + bonus hth 15 is 85, caps at 95 without finesse using haymaker since you have 110 total. You need to reroll.

[RavenousRat]

Gun crit perks don't work for hth

Are you sure? Then +1% crit for each LK doesn't work on HtH too? So with 10 LK you'll have 0% crit in torso?
Also

haymaker already adds 15% crit. 10 luck is 70% + bonus hth 15 is 85, caps at 95 without finesse using haymaker since you have 110 total. You need to reroll.

1) It's for the eyes, and he's crippler, so needs arms too.
2) Haymaker gives +15% of your crit chance, so, for example, 70%+(15% from 70)=80.5%.
3) Than more than better, because there's also armor that negates crit%.

Edit: I mean gun crits adds %crit to your base crit chance, while HtH doesn't. So increased base crit chance won't affect HtH? That's... don't know.

[Gimper]

rat is right. gun crits definately do work for melee crits....

[Roachor]

Rav isn't right, i don't think he understood my post and I certainly didn't understand his. Aiming at eyes adds 60% regardless of what weapon you use, hence 70% base crit chance with 10 luck. According to the devs More Criticals, Even more criticals and better criticals only affect guns/ew/bg/throwing. This is why melee gets its own perks like Bonus hth damage + and HtH Criticals. so 70+ 15+15 = 100% crit, which is capped at 95%. Afaik since it can't go higher than 95% armour reduction is always in effect since extra crit % isn't counted.

[Gimper]

Rav isn't right, i don't think he understood my post and I certainly didn't understand his. Aiming at eyes adds 60% regardless of what weapon you use, hence 70% base crit chance with 10 luck. According to the devs More Criticals, Even more criticals and better criticals only affect guns/ew/bg/throwing. This is why melee gets its own perks like Bonus hth damage + and HtH Criticals. so 70+ 15+15 = 100% crit, which is capped at 95%. Afaik since it can't go higher than 95% armour reduction is always in effect since extra crit % isn't counted.

If this is true, then i need to tell opera that his calculations are incorrect on the Character planner. Because his planner gives me these calculations for a knife.

[Slaver Snipe]

Are you sure about Haymaker Ravenous?  I had always assumed it did a flat +15% bonus to critical chance. not critical chance x 1.15

[Roachor]

Are you sure about Haymaker Ravenous?  I had always assumed it did a flat +15% bonus to critical chance. not critical chance x 1.15

it is a flat 15%

[Gimper]

Well I did some research. I did a critical hit test. This is how it went.
First was 10 hits to my friends eyes with a knife. 10/10 crits
then 20/20
then 28/30
then 49/50 critical hits.

I think he's pretty good. lol (each crit was like 30-80 dmg)

[John.Metzger]

i rolling fine with this..
http://www.imagebam.com/image/87461d197454658
bruiser and smallframe are the traits.
you can change a first aid based perk with "more criticals" for 25% critchance instead 20% nvm,
its simply maxed heal and maxed dmg with hth in my opinion, enough for (my) pve purposes.
good char to explore the game at least.

thats another char, just for testing stuff
http://www.imagebam.com/image/73aded197457619
i dont know wether that char works or not.. ^^
maybe you did a one hit to something or you get a one hit and die, sounds fair lol
ah and youre blind, enjoy the challenge while sneaking