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[falloutdude]

Look at your post, and other whiners posts, then guess why.

people only whine because devs do nothing.if they did something they would get praise but instead they get whined at for doing nothing. they need to pass the torch on to new devs who will bring a new fire.

[TKs-KaBoom]

Take it out to the dumpster, it's gathering flies.....

[Tomowolf]

people only whine because devs do nothing.if they did something they would get praise but instead they get whined at for doing nothing. they need to pass the torch on to new devs who will bring a new fire.

They don't need to do anything, its their game, and they do what they want, if they want it to rot, it will rot.
You guys don't get it , that they already said - if players whine = nothing changes, if they insult them or BLAME ( which is funnier there) they don't care, if people won't donate more = THEY"LL SHUT THE GODDAMN SERVER AND PLAY ON THEIR OWN.
Deal with it. Its not Free game made by studio, but by people with their families and their REAL LIFES (huh hard one).
And you said about passing torch - its like giving out a not repaired car for free, nothing there is for free and they wont give it away.

[Roachor]

Yeah the devs clearly spent years on this to play an mmo solo. At this point i think this project is more resume building than anything else since they aren't concerned about the complete lack of content and focus on behind the scenes coding. All game have a shelf life before the players get bored and move on, the game started off looking decades behind from the get go and after like what 3-4 years of barebones beta you expect the players to stay? The fact anyone is still here is a testament to the hardcore fanbase/people with infinite patience that remain. There is no pve but grinding, pvp is sporadic and imo best during events. When there are large pvp events the game lags to shit, the servers clearly can't handle even the meager load placed on it by the 150 or so people that still play. An optimistic guess that 5% of the playerbase actual sends money for server upkeep isn't going to keep things going when there is no progress. If the devs fixed things people actually cared about and had small regular updates things would keep going, just look at minecraft. Up until 1.7 the game had pretty much no content but they added bits at a time and now its getting more and more kickass. They need to make the game wackier, ignore the calls for harshness and realism and implement some basic things every mmo needs like a god damn FRIENDS LIST so you know when people are online or a chat system that doesn't involve getting a radio and holding it and syncing channels. Instances, quests, unique items, auto attack (fot style), npcs that don't spout awkward engrish and actually have some depth to their personalities. Hell just adding in all the weapons would be nice, wtf is the point of leaving out the top tier for the shitty combat types like flamer mk2 and mega power fist? I just hope 3d dev swoops in and saves the day before everyone gives up on 2238 and it becomes a massive waste of everyone involved's time.

[Lizard]

And now we'll see if anyone cares. What is irrelevant, since everyone will come back sans alternative. The game will always have players coming and if someone goes, fine, another one will join.

Like someone care about the population! It's the open beta, you're free to join, if you don't like it, bye. The game could get closed beta, you know? Only the ones who get invited and behave will be able to test play on 2238, how would you like it?

And the problem with the traffic will get solved, since there are only few players online who are actually dedicated to the testing process.

[Tomowolf]

Like someone care about the population! It's the open beta, you're free to join, if you don't like it, bye. The game could get closed beta, you know? Only the ones who get invited and behave will be able to test play on 2238, how would you like it?

Still not enough developers to even go out of beta.

[DeputyDope]

They don't need to do anything, its their game, and they do what they want, if they want it to rot, it will rot.

oh rry? it's OUR game dude. i refuse to believe it's THEIR game, because if it would've been THEIR game they could've just made a basement LAN party alright?

You guys don't get it , that they already said - if players whine = nothing changes, if they insult them or BLAME ( which is funnier there) they don't care, if people
won't donate more = THEY"LL SHUT THE GODDAMN SERVER AND PLAY ON THEIR OWN.

and you don't get it though your skull already that NOT WHINING does 0% for the server, WHINING does 0.01%(at least now). still better than 0, innit?

Deal with it.

i won't.

Its not Free game made by studio, but by people with their families and their REAL LIFES (huh hard one).

agreed. but as long as you embark on a project that desperately requires feedback, IMHO you should LISTEN to the feedback, or at least keep the dumbass players up to date with some shit. (even if it's useless stuff, even if nothing happens)


all in all i don't get the general attitudes here
1) "stop whining" - which we all know is bullshit
2) "it's their game, F$%@ off." - i'm not gonna bother elaborating this crap.
3) "wasteland is harsh/go play hello kitty online" - in here it's just losers trying to make game harder to fit their 1337 h4rdc0r3 styl3.
4) "if you don't like it fuck off" - if i dont' like it i try to make it better somehow and so should you.
5) "game is good as it is and game is free so it doesn't matter if features turn to crap." - again no point in elaborating.
6) "oh look at me i make useless crap suggestion that won't help the general gameplay, but i just like to think it does" - mhmm

and so on and so forth, you get the point.

[Wichura]

oh rry? it's OUR game dude.

So what's your contribution? Any maps? Scripts? Dialogues? Maybe updated article in Wiki?

Yours, sir, is what you can get from your arse.

[Roachor]

It's our game because no one else will play it

[TKs-KaBoom]

It's our game because no one else will play it

Lol, actually that's true!  As sad as it is to say, it's absolutely true!  You can't get a normal sane person to sit down and play this game for an hour, just try it.  Nobody really can stand to play this game, half are hardcore PvP apes that gave up because TC doesn't work.  The other half is NCR chit chat idlers and the trolls they attract.  Another half is mods, gms and devs that hate the playerbase.  Come to think of it this is a pretty fucking cool game!

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdhMSEqhfg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdhMSEqhfg</a>


(I tried to find a video about being over 100%, I guess you'll have to watch a dumb beauty queen instead.  Skip to :50)

[Giftless]

oh rry? it's OUR game dude. i refuse to believe it's THEIR game, because if it would've been THEIR game they could've just made a basement LAN party alright?

It's more like a shared dream; a lot of us can agree that combining the best of Fallout 1, 2, and Tactics is a good idea. However, in making that vision a reality the developers are following their own take on things. FOnline has its strengths for sure, but unless the devs address the weaknesses they run the risk of losing players to splinter groups who build a better mousetrap. Or to games that are better polished in general.

I've noticed too, not in your post in particular, but just in the general forum atmosphere being a players vs. developers kind of thing. And sure, some players get emotional and want unrealistic things, but you also have criticism which reflects back on whether the game is working or not. I say this kind of observation isn't personal, rather...well...the main thing is that a game developed is enjoyable for the players.

Now the devs are perfectly free to do things that we disagree with or find unpleasant. If they go so far as to make the game fail due to some of those things, I'm cool with that. My role is to give criticism (which is freely given as the game is freely given) and to spend time on games which I enjoy for as long as I enjoy them

[Giftless]

Lol, actually that's true!  As sad as it is to say, it's absolutely true!  You can't get a normal sane person to sit down and play this game for an hour, just try it.  Nobody really can stand to play this game, half are hardcore PvP apes that gave up because TC doesn't work.  The other half is NCR chit chat idlers and the trolls they attract.  Another half is mods, gms and devs that hate the playerbase.  Come to think of it this is a pretty fucking cool game!

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdhMSEqhfg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdhMSEqhfg</a>


(I tried to find a video about being over 100%, I guess you'll have to watch a dumb beauty queen instead.  Skip to :50)

That needs to be turned into a title screen! Make Slater into a bluesuit--one who laments his career path--and dip South Carolina into an F.E.V. vat. There's nothing like a post-apocalyptic beauty contest to give FOnline the direction it needs.

(Slater is the new master; he's like a Chosen One turned bad! Or depressed. Because there's no television stations. Or high schools with principals!)

[lucas.]

If you think 5 minute rollbacks are really that bad then just go to T-ray's garage and buy a Delorean.

[Lizard]

3) "wasteland is harsh/go play hello kitty online" - in here it's just losers trying to make game harder to fit their 1337 h4rdc0r3 styl3.

How the fuck is the HURRshness related to server crashes, goddamn? 

4) "if you don't like it fuck off" - if i dont' like it i try to make it better somehow and so should you.

Oh yeah, players suggested and even made done solutions, like knockdown script. But the Rotators seem to be allergic to fucking everything that was not made by them, very unlike to the Russians.

5) "game is good as it is and game is free so it doesn't matter if features turn to crap." - again no point in elaborating.

Sounds like S/M to me.

6) "oh look at me i make useless crap suggestion that won't help the general gameplay, but i just like to think it does" - mhmm

Because suggestions aren't taken seriously anymore. It's just a Cafe of Broken Dreams to share something that just remains a empty idea. Rotators don't even read them, face it! The whole section is just a dump that keeps the PMs from devs away.
And what's about a little offtop in a section that isn't taken seriously by anyone?

[Gimper]

Oh God, please give me the will power to quit this game....... Nevermind God...