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T-888:
1 ST is -20% , -40% or -60%  penalty can be balanced with pure skill points if we looking at real numbers , STR 3-4 ( or 2-3 if don't take small frame , so if we look at weapon requirements , builds and carry weight requirements were looking at maximum 100%- skill penalty for weapon usage that can be quite easily balanced if the build uses only torso shots - BG ) as much only to carry sufficient amount of equipment and even higher penalty can be balanced with higher perception witch you will have due to spare special points that are gained from a new dump stat called STR.

I'm sorry but it is how it is ...


--- Quote from: DocAN. on May 01, 2012, 02:50:26 pm ---Your 1ST alt will get instant KD and weapon drops

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STR is the main stat for responsible for KD and weapon drops ? Source of information please. First time i hear this.

Don't know what are you talking about weapon drops , BUT Stonewall , bonehead , combat helmet , 10 endurance bonus equals to 100% protection against KD's and maybe 1% ( well when i tested all this i never got KO'd with all previously mentioned bonuses , but maybe there is 1% chance that i haven't experienced yet , ;D ) to get KO'd , i have personally tested all this.

Then again if 99 cap , we would of course have sneakers with always 300% sneak skill achievable with a lot less INT ( another passive dumpstat for metagamers ). Some perks like ghost and features like wall bonuses and barrels would become obsolete , it is because sneak is capped at 300% skill no matter what bonuses exceeds that and only then penalties are applied ( armor , weapon etc. etc. )

Source of information http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,19266.0.html

DocAN.:
Just tell me how you will take stonewall with 1st...

And if you didnt hear about something doesnt mean  that its not working.

Ill not speak with You anymore "MR. WiseGuy"

Roachor:
If you have less str than your weapon requirement you drop it a lot, if you have less than 10 str/10 end stonewall doesn't give 100% kd resist.

T-888:

--- Quote from: DocAN. on May 01, 2012, 05:53:48 pm ---Ill not speak with You anymore "MR. WiseGuy"

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And I am supposed to be arrogant ?

Did you read at least half of what i wrote ? Did i tell you that big gunners will run around with 1 strength in case if they want to use stonewall ? I don't create things out of blue air , sorry.

That is just one perk and any build in fact can do well without it , it's actually situational and a personal preference. I have to say , it's easy to use jet without any buffout and obtain another extra special point that isn't needed for even agility anymore in case if str becomes irrelevant.

Oh excuse me , that i don't want to blindly believe anything that comes from a player that don't know basic things like how much penalty str applies. It proves any further information you prrovide is just not reliable , so i don't want to hear your false information as some stated truth without any fact , logical explanation or source of information , in that case the information most likely comes from your imagination.

If people could manage their stupidity , i wouldn't have to manage my arrogance.


--- Quote from: Roachor on May 01, 2012, 06:04:46 pm ---If you have less str than your weapon requirement you drop it a lot, if you have less than 10 str/10 end stonewall doesn't give 100% kd resist.

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Yes it does , you can test it yourself.
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6 base str , 10 endurance , bonehead , combat helmet bonus and stonewall. Not only against KD's but for KO's.

Without bonehead , you will still get KO'D once in a while.

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6 base str , 10 endurance , combat helmet bonus , stonewall , but no bonehead. See the difference. Of course i have to tell it for safety otherwise more false information will be provided , there's only difference in KO's with the change of roll.

When i say , i have made tests. I don't lie.


--- Quote from: DocAN. on May 01, 2012, 02:50:26 pm ---weapon drops

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I will test this , i hope your right.

Nice_Boat:
This thread is going nowhere because raising lvl cap in itself is a change to basic gamedesign and as such would imply changing other shit around. This leads to new issues like introduction of lvl caps for perks, possibly reduction of new SP after a certain lvl, managing HP (does it keep increasing until 99, is it hardcapped or is there a softcap meaning your HP stops growing after a certain lvl etc.) and possibly 91231 things I missed right now. Obviously, certain solutions won't fare too well with alts being allowed and the way the rest of the game is functioning, ie. capping HP or combat perks would make leveling up to get a crafting profession completely unviable because it'd be way easier to make a level 10 crafter from a scratch. It's a TREMENDOUSLY complicated issue and most of you are trying to tackle it in a childish manner, which makes this suggestion even less likely to be implemented. Furthermore, keep in mind that the devs have just come up with a mechanical overhaul as to skills/perks/levelcap and all the assorted stuff, so do you really think it'd be reasonable to yet again say "ah, fuck it" and start all over again? Balance doesn't come with frequent revolutionary changes, it comes with letting the game mature and making tweaks that aren't even noticeable for people who aren't much into metagame.

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