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Author Topic: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?  (Read 1481 times)

Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« on: April 16, 2012, 04:06:34 pm »

Anyone know formula for man of steel? I am at dilema. My char is 282Hp at final with 9AP and TAG to outdoorsman , throwing and FA. perks
3 Pack rat
6 Heave ho
9 Stone Wall
12 15 18 Life gifer
21 Bonus Rate of Fire
24 Man of steel / Even Thougness ( or additional Heave Ho (STR at 7 but PER only 4)?
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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 09:14:11 pm »

depends if you are more worried about snipers or bursters
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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 10:01:11 pm »

In Combat Armor with psycho I can take lot of dmg from LSW and thanks Stone Wall I have 1/2 less chance to knock down/out but I can be cripled or bynnepased to the eye so I am looking for what MAN OF STEEL excatly do... I want numbers...
If bonus is shitty I just take Even Tougher.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 10:05:47 pm by chosen1 »
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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 10:08:07 pm »

Man of steel is great, especially combined with bonehead. with gear and perks you're looking at -30 on the crit table to head and -20 everywhere else. I have a 200 hp tank with toughness and anti crit, avenger does 20 dmg at range and 40-50 from 1 hex, sniper eyeshots seem to max out at 97 with sniper rifle. (this was in BA)
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 10:10:24 pm by Roachor »
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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 10:56:53 pm »

I have Small Frame + One Hander. I dont understand what excatly is that crit table, can you give example what dmg and chances I have/took with and without Man of Steel ?
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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 11:02:08 pm »

this is based on outdated info, but there are basically 5 tiers of possible crit effects. having -30 on the crit table means you roll from -30 to 70 on a scale of 100 and can't get the top 2 tiers and the crit will be downgraded to lesser effects and damage, so no blinding or instakills. Having better crits does the opposite, making your roll from 20-120 on a scale of 100.
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Killer Rabbit

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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 10:29:46 am »

Man of steel is great, especially combined with bonehead. with gear and perks you're looking at -30 on the crit table to head and -20 everywhere else. I have a 200 hp tank with toughness and anti crit, avenger does 20 dmg at range and 40-50 from 1 hex, sniper eyeshots seem to max out at 97 with sniper rifle. (this was in BA)

20 in range? :D 200hp tank? wtf? i thought tanks have +280hp and x2toughnes, adresnaline rush, and active psyho and bonehead + stonewall/man of stell :)
when you have 10/70%<->80% normal resists, avenger with 3xbrd hit you for 50-65 in full range but not for 20;] maby someone was shooting you with jhp ammo. Tank are good only to embrace damage, but they can die from one lsw-gatling critical hit. They dont generate damage, so they can be use just for fire support with rocket launchers.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 12:11:08 pm by Killer Rabbit »
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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 11:43:12 am »

avenger does 20 dmg at range and 40-50 from 1 hex

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jacky.

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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 11:49:18 am »

no brd jhp ammo ;D vs tank ;D
3xbrd avenger with ap ammo deal to tank build from 1hex 250+damage ;D
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Re: Man of Steel or Even Tougher?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2012, 09:56:37 pm »

Lol I was wondering why i was doing so well, never occurred to me anyone would use jhp.
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