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[DeputyDope]

There are 2 reasons why i think there is no pve:

1. NPCs are buffed to max. Ridiculous high HP, high crit chance.

I can understand that but here comes second reason

2. SHITTY LOOT. Why the fuck i have to waste ammo, superstimpacks, time in turn base to loot fuckin mauser, shotgun or spear lol?

PvE is dead since november 2009 wipe 

SF caravan in 2009:
Avanger minigun, LSW, Laser rifle, combat shotgun, needler pistol - YAY

SF caravan in 2012:
Where the fuck is it? Och bugged... right. Even if it was in game all you could loot was laser rifle and piece of shit LSW - SUCKS

BH caravan in 2009:
3 or 5 miniguns and lot of jhp and ap ammo - YAY

BH caravan in 2012:
Bugged? Anyone attack them? Few hunting rifles. - SUCKS

it's obvious that you have been doing alot of PvE lately.

[runboy93]

Aww.. I thought there was guys at IRC channel
Only mod answered and gave me -o

[manero]

Was this a wipe that bring us nerfed BH caravans and such?

Yes.

it's obvious that you have been doing alot of PvE lately.

...and yes.

PvE was really cool. Was.

[Redivivus]

PvE was really cool. Was.

Can not disagree with you. PvE in 2009 was, uhh, funnier? Now it's just some sort of stuff grinding. And yes, 'they' killed spelunky. No idea is there possible to find gauss/alien blaster in caves for now.

[maciek83]

so much people say 'i love how harsh this game is' some of em say 'i want it harsher people have so much stuff already' devs listen ,makes it even harsher , now you whine 'make it easier'

[Wichura]

2. SHITTY LOOT. Why the fuck i have to waste ammo, superstimpacks, time in turn base to loot fuckin mauser, shotgun or spear lol?

Why the fuck waste ammo, superstimpaks, time for hanging on worldmap to loot fucking uranium ore from killed cow in BH? Who needs uranium now anyway?

Disabling caravans (they seem to be disabled as I've never met any of them in this era) was dumb tho. There should always be a way to choose - kill & scavenge, craft or trade for itanz. People will get the way easiest for them.

PvE was really cool. Was.

It's not a good rich source of itanz now for sure. However I don't remember when I last time crafted something, as all my crap I get from PvE. Right, some plasma pistols this week, it was easier than searching for them in shops.

[manero]

Sure, im whining about 'harsh wasteland' lol It's really pain in my ass...

btw. most of that 'i want harsh wasteland gamers' don't play 

[maciek83]

actually i WOULD also prefer previous pve benefits , i dont care if some of em have everything when i constantly struggle to get any shit

[falloutdude]

stop this  on my topic. go make new topic.

[cannotspace]

so much people say 'i love how harsh this game is' some of em say 'i want it harsher people have so much stuff already' devs listen ,makes it even harsher , now you whine 'make it easier'

I think people just want it to be more "rewarding" like, higher stats NPCs, but better loot, and keep some low stats npc with not so good loot. The issue is that devs mock the "minmax" done by players but they do it themselves, they have no idea how to balance some of the stuff

[Ganado]

Pve with group is slow and not profitable.

It might not seem like it a lot of the time, but sometimes the point of the game might be something a bit more than systematically grinding for PvP.  And having a big 10-people group, at least pre-wipe (haven't done any huge PvE yet this session), could bring in tons of loot from a single encounter.

But I'd have to agree with manero that PvE in general seems to be much more of a grind than it was before with all of the changes, especially since/due to the last wipe.

But anyway, nice idea falloutdude, seems useful.

[Roachor]

There is a difference between something being harsh and something being boring.

[manero]

Pve is just another fucked thing in this game. But there is no pve on other fonline servers so people have no real choice and choose less evil - fonline 2238 

All we can do is wait for next donate term and hope for beg for money update.