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[chocolate_chip_cookies]

I want to touch on the subject of crafting many of the drugs.
Crafting drugs such as superstimpacks is not worth it.
1. Stealing superstimpacks is much quicker and efficient
2. Bio med gel costs 25 caps per container. Two bio med gels are needed to craft one superstimpack.
3. To get bio med gel you need to go to San Francisco, to get chemical component you need to go to Waterworks, and to craft the stimpack you need to go to Necropolis. Those are three opposite corners of the map.

[codave]

So... that Super Stimpak blueprint I just found is useless?

 

I guess I'll put it with my super sledge blueprint...

 

[Hects Hakal]

Personally i find whole crafting obsolete due to the need of advanced workbench to craft anything usefull

[John Porno]

gonna look forward to the new tc town "mariposa" if they delete this silly stealing.

[avv]

gonna look forward to the new tc town "mariposa" if they delete this silly stealing.

Some of us have gathered thousands of superstims by now. I'd say the superstim market has been ruined the same way as what happened with bottlecaps in last session.
Things like this require fast and immidiate response, but it's often too late when noticed because those who found out the strategy ofcourse kept it to themselves until they had hoards.

[Tomowolf]

avv, it looks always like that
Session starts , players abuse things that are abusable, gangs got full stashed bases, while newbies starts their games, then comes the lately update nerfing abuses, then new players cannot join pvp/anything, while old gangs got zylion of items in their bases.... sad but true, but I guess Devs wont make such updates during session but with incoming wipe.

[maciek83]

enlighten me , are you talking about stealing from your faction in random encounters?
how is it possible
i guess im the one who missed some nice abuse

[codave]

enlighten me , are you talking about stealing from your faction in random encounters?
how is it possible
i guess im the one who missed some nice abuse

Stealing from NPC's

[maciek83]

Stealing from NPC's

yes but how? i tought they eliminated this by making you loose rep when stealing and by adding 4 sec warning if you come close before they shoot you

[avv]

yes but how? i tought they eliminated this by making you loose rep when stealing and by adding 4 sec warning if you come close before they shoot you

Well that didn't work at all. Go sneaking around in bos squares, watching players do it and you'll figure it out.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

If stealing is removed then I'm done. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. This game is slowly losing all its old players do to all this catering to whiners.

My own 70 year old step father plays this game and even he thinks the game sucks now. Good job.

[chocolate_chip_cookies]

Well as a compromise they can keep stealing but just make crafting easier and better

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

just make crafting easier and better

Exactly!

[Marko]

I agree to make crafting easier, and especially agree with Hects. Crafting is a big-time important feature to me. For whatever reason, i don't want farmed gear - i only want to make 100% fresh stuff, the best. But the a-benches create a bottleneck of risk that is too often deadly. Even when i go with protection, someone finds out (or not) and we get hit and a week's worth of hard work goes to someone else. So forget that. (And please, nobody say anything about the GR a-bench being so "safe" because it's not.)

So yeah, i've been saying this since Jan 7th: ease up on crafters, and recipes.

However, the only comments i see from staff is they don't want anyone making tons of CA (for example) anymore, and when i ask "why not?" i don't see an answer yet, so apparently things are just the way they are meant to be. No complaints here. I've done my job as a [non-invited] "beta tester" lol.

PS: I also agree that being able to steal ammo and meds from BoS is also a fun feature. My thief character is actually a friend of BoS though, so he doesn't steal it - he just borrows it...*ahem* permanently *cough *cough*lol. When the BoS guys warn him to stay back, it's only because they care about his safety since they often burst at real enemies and they don't want to hit him in the crossfire. (I salute the roleplay thing)

[maciek83]

but do they actually shoot you after warning or you can steal freely?