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Marko:
We clearly have very different ideas about "good at all of them". If my salesman is not Barter 300 or close, then i feel like i have a less-than optimal salesman. If my tumbler had less then lockpick 300, then when i fail at opening those hardest safes at Glow, i would know i could have done better. Ever go there? Two of those safes don't open quickly for less than highest skill. Some say they don't open at all.

And no, i don't have time to walk my miner all over the place! Good golly miss molly i cannot imagine that with how much mining i do. I log into a miner and pretty much power-mine until the mine is ding-dang empty lol. Then i switch to another miner (if i can take it) and do it again somewhere else as fast as i can. I have 1400 metal parts at 1 base and 700 alloys there ready for the next crafter so i can write that guide.

You asked why so many PvP fighters. Why would you not level up one of each, at least? And two big gunners: 1 for burst weapons with those perks, and one for rockets with different perks. I have to stop talking now - there's so many combinations of weapons and perks...

BenKain:
That's how I mine too, clear it out totally. But then I give it to the damn dog, get in my Honda Civic and go to the next one. What your doing Marko, is considered an exploit in my opinion, same as BoS and Enclave exploiters. With the exception that you do indeed have to work a little harder.

And because everyone has certain play style, and your PvP char should reflect that, not 7 EW builds, one with lifegiver instead of man of steal, or whatever is unnecessary at best.

And fyi, I've tested it, and 180 Barter caps sale prices. 200 speech caps Party Point. With a lockpick set and 200% lockpick, you can pick any lock in the game, perhaps with the occasional fail.

Only thing I can see raising past 200 is maybe First Aid, to drop the cooldown.

Chrupek:
@BenKain

Resistance is futile. Youre simply wrong, if you think, that your miner-repairman-other shit char is as much efficient in minig, as specially designed char, only for mining. Its just wrong, and no need to further explanations. Im not saying its good thing, but this game force us to use alts. It helps with everything.

BenKain:

--- Quote from: Chrupek on April 03, 2012, 10:34:36 AM ---Im not saying its good thing, but this game force us to use alts

--- End quote ---

And my girlfriend forced me to bitch-slap her last night. Yeah, right.
If you don't like it, do something about it. Take a stand and show these cheesecakes whats really up.
I have been able to do just about everything with a single character, and effectively at that. I will continue to use one character until I get bored with him, then I may make a single alt. Not for Enclave looting, not for mining, no, just so I can play the goddamn game again.

Marko:
I don't use any exploits. Once again you have a weird idea. It's simply too expensive to drive to all the mines each time i switch - crafting recipes are too expensive this year, so rather than use all that SEC, i use multiple miners, one at a time. That's not an exploit.

If anything is an exploit, it's using a dog to carry all that weight. Poor dog. Myself, i use a cow so it goes pretty fast. So we're on the same track on how to mine efficiently.

I do not believe you've tried to open "every lock in the game". Have you been to the Glow? Like i said, two of those safes are really tough, tougher than skill 200 will handle.

Now if you are telling me there is no advantage whatsoever to a salesman with Barter any higher than 200, or a party leader with Speech any higher than 200, then THAT info changes those two builds for me, big-time. If i can confirm that, that's gold, but guess what: i'll still have 1 char for each use.

More on fighter builds: most of the potential combinations would be worthless to test. But why would you use your LSW fighter to fire rockets? I mean, you could, but if you want a rocket guy, then choose the right perks. So that's two count-em-two big guns fighters. Now about a year from now, when all my plans are fully fleshed out and i'm known as the wasteland's safest car dealer (lol), i might level up a spelunker who uses an improved flamethrower. He'll have the Pyromaniac perks. That's 3 big guns fighters! Hahahaha!

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