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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 01:40:22 pm »

Why you cant become by big group ? Whats problem ? Many guys around who can uderstand in this work... Cryo, Shangalar and LeMark an axample... they worked in Desert Europe project, but gone for some reasons. At least you can make from them GMs and they will be connecting link between adequative players and devs. Dont need live in obscure tomb, Scypior. Too many ways for pick up this morbund server...
Sorry for my english.
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2012, 02:04:19 pm »

they worked in Desert Europe project

Desert Europe had problems exactly because of that - big group is hard to manage (it's not like we don't want any help).
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2012, 03:17:53 pm »

In any case you need in more ammount of GMs.
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 02:26:32 am »

Desert Europe had problems exactly because of that - big group is hard to manage (it's not like we don't want any help).

.... but but how it would hurt to get some " foot-soldiers " to do the dirty work for you ? I'm sure there are people who would willingly make/script/map something that will be used , rather than just for own fun in the same time contributing to a great project. Look what you pulled out from community concerning the 3D assets !

I think desert europe developers just couldn't agree in what direction they want to push the project , what if the arrow is already set strong and straight ?

Just a small example , topic from 2238 developers " we need a script that does this and that " , " we need a map that would look like ... " etc. etc. wouldn't that work ? Make some contest , recruit some guys , give them fancy tags in forum and see what happens.
 
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 02:40:25 am »

What you say is right, T-888, but one thing is asking if someone can do something (the example you gave) and a whole different thing is opening the door to new people who will become devs. Different members of the team will eventually have very different views about how something should be done or if implementing X will be awesome or total bullshit. This can lead to arguments and frustration which means less people feeling like working on 2238. I prefer a small and slow team who eventually gets stuff done + some help from time to time from other members of the community.
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2012, 11:26:13 am »

Fancy tags like mappers/scripters , people who do a specific task when asked that's it. No decision making from their side ,  no opinion asked , like i said foot-soldiers and if something goes wrong each soldier is of course always expendable. I think there are enough developers who actually develop the game , the concept how they want it to be , just more heads hands would never hurt right ?
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2012, 12:50:48 pm »

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Fancy tags like mappers/scripters , people who do a specific task when asked that's it. No decision making from their side ,  no opinion asked , like i said foot-soldiers and if something goes wrong each soldier is of course always expendable

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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 12:55:15 pm »

This is the case already; f.e. Johnny Nuclear.
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 04:58:27 pm »

T888 is right.

You say that's the case already, but not really. I don't see devs asking anyone on the forum for help in anything.
What I see is devs or gms complaining that players are complaining.

T said about devs making a topic to create something when needed. We don't have that and I think that would be very helpful in getting things done because anyone could try to help
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2012, 06:34:18 pm »

Desert Europe had problems exactly because of that - big group is hard to manage (it's not like we don't want any help).

What you say is right, and even more when people don't speak the same language, and furthermore have a really different way to express their meanings and feelings, maybe because of their cultural origin. Well, shit happens. The lack of organization and professional way of working killed FODE project. Painful but not useless, we learned several things that'll be useful to avoid such situation to happen again.

Don't worry though Oliver, Cryo will be back sooner or later, but on a different project that we hope you'll enjoy ;)
Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2012, 11:10:27 am »

Desert Europe had problems exactly because of that - big group is hard to manage (it's not like we don't want any help).
Actually we have 3 developers, who are active - in the past was  there 15.,
We have still nobody who can make roleplay/dialogs etc, and only this is shit.
I did manage all logistic and was really good in big group, but only to the time when people did hear and make my logistic plane.

But that did change: "Xenom say do this. But i can make what I want...///Yes Xenom, i will finish it in 3 days(1month)//Yes Xenom I will finish it in 3 days(2months)//Yes Xenom i will finish it in 3 days(3months)"-the same speech always, that people did destroy project in final progress.

From the time i am thinking that maby Shangalar did try to make small "dictature", but he did has many right about people, and small dictature in big team is needed.
FOnline tactics is based on his and TTTLA ideas/sugestions about gameplay: only 2 factions to choose on beggining, only real time PvP...
I am very interested what will be effect of that solutions.

Fode server need 7-10 activ people and one to manage.
But as you know if you are taking new person to team, than you must teach them "How to" - and you can loose time when they run away.
Now we are wokrking very slowly and make new team in other much easier fonline tactics project.
Finaly if nothing will change, than will win my idea about making open source server, where almost every can add something.

And to Shangalar. Personaly, not from fode. I can say it on public, becouse in my opinion You did have many right about people, than sorry for the past, and forgive me. That was really hard to take good decision when I was on other people oppression.

As i did say, i will continue working on fode open/close source, but few people from group must take decision, what exacly thay want, make something or f%$% out from developing.
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2012, 03:26:16 pm »

You wrote a small wall of text, xenom. I hate to say this but it's the topic about the Cryo's comics, isn't it?
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2012, 08:36:29 pm »

Cryo said me that he will make a comic about this topic. So keep debating.
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2012, 10:40:01 pm »

OK then. So in my opinion FODE was threaten as too serious buisness by some of it's developers. Guys chill out, you won't make money on this project anyways. Don't worry. It happens when promises are bigger than reality.
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Re: Need TTTLA comics, we suffering !
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2012, 10:41:01 pm »

In any case you need in more ammount of GMs.

There are enough Gay..Game Masters around....
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