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Kelin:
Rain, you are mixing two different things together. Server population has nothing to do with ammount of stuff we have in game. Proof? Last season everyone had millions of caps, lots of armors, weapons and other stuff, yet people were complaining all the time. Nowadays getting any caps is much harder than in previous session, trading is harder, logistics (transporting items and players) is more problematic (due to the lack of caps for a car) and so on.

Not everyone is able to accept the fact, that this game is played by various types of players. I met many players who love to craft and hoard stuff. People, who have never been interested in any player vs. player fight (that doesn't mean that they don't like encountering other players!). All players from this group I knew have already left the server. Why? Don't ask me, since I'm not a crafter it's hard to say what is wrong.

Another group are powergamers, they can spend hours doing a boring repetitive task which they don't find entertaining, however their motivation moves them forward. Once they have all the best stuff they can get, once a week they join some action, fight and after that they just launch another game.

These are only examples, how complicated and varied FOnline playerbase is. I think the most stable is the following one. Players who play to have a constant action. Players like me. Quality is not the main measure, quantity is. Lots of you were laughing at players not having the proper gear, coming only in bluesuit with a cheap equipment and called them "trolls". The truth is that stuff they had is already gone and of course there is no room for crafting or farming when there is an action going on. I don't say that all people should play this way, I only wanted to point out kinds of players playing this game. It's obvious, that this game has nothing to offer to some players and there will always be people who will enjoy it.

DeputyDope:
ok, here is how i see this game split up

1. world map travel/encounters (PvE)
2. mining/crafting
3. fighting in cities and on encounters(PvP)
4. leveling/character building
5. items
6. chatting/rp


1.
world map travel is somewhat slow, but this isn't the issue. the issue here is that with 26% outdoorsman skill, there's TOO MANY ENCOUNTERS ON THE WORLD MAP!!!!
hell, i get sometimes 2-3 encounters in ONE SQUARE!!!!!!! ONE!
luckily i have a car that helps ALOT to move me from point A to point B

now onto the encounters. YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING USEFUL IN ENCOUNTERS. besides this, some NPC's are incredibly buffed for the shitty items they carry. before the wipe you could enter an NCR Army encounter vs mutants, you could get your hands on a flamer, hell even m60. there used to be BOS vs mutants encounters where you could get a minigun or rocket launcher if you were lucky. now it's insanely difficult and/or annoying getting some types of guns. hell, before the wipe there used to be VARIATION in the guns you could get from encounters. now only greasers and shitty pistols, because "LETS MAKE THIS GAME MORE DIFFICULT".
guys i'll let you in a piece of information. the changes that make the game more "difficult" make the game more TEDIOUS. this game's difficulty comes with the number of players, not the fact that you can't even get a bloody 10mm SMG in encounters now.
god forbid i encounter 2-3 mutants at time. oh no! i have to encounter ALL THE TIME 8-10 mutants, i need a faction to take them down.

2.
crafting this session IS A JOKE!! you know why? because hunting for blueprints is a joke. hell, i'd agree with the blueprint system if it weren't so incredibly TEDIOUS and BORING, requiring YET ANOTHER ALT to do this job. and hell, i'd agree with the blueprint system more if it would've been available only for somewhat rare items. or heck, it would be cool if you could buy blueprints from gun dealers. you want a crafter only for SMG's and 10mm rounds? no problem, you go to a gun dealer, buy a 10mm SMG blueprint for 500 caps or 1000 caps, whatever price matters less.
advanced workbench at military base (hell, ANY unguarded area it might be in) is a J O K E!
that elevator only allows one person to go in, so if you attack that place with 10 people trying to clear the area you can't because that shitty elevator only works with one character. :/

mining is yet another joke. no gathering cooldowns, forcing people to have MORE MINER ALTS with 200KG carryweight or guys that show up with brahmins to take all the resources.

3.
PvP is a joke. now with quick-relogging even more common and easier, it's a game of whoever has more alts on the freakin' world map.
battles nowadays are pure shit because sneakers are overpowered. (grenade sneakers mostly)
you attack someone everywhere, he brings his WM backups.
there should be either timeout to log, or penalty to combat skills as jovanka suggested.
i'd suggest that penalty to last 5 minutes.




4.
level cap increased to level 24 was a pretty good idea.
character building doesn't have the variation is was SUPPOSED to have with all these extra perks. hell, sneaker,unarmed+melee, and burster and that's it. snipers are fucking useless and they will be even MORE useless with AC cap removed. it's not like there's anti-crit perks making even finesse builds quite useless.
hell this session encouraged ALTING WAY TOO MUCH!! you need miner alt, barter alt, science alt (because most the times the mines are empty), lockpicker/traps alt (for footlockers and BP hunting), several PvP alts, scout alts, etc...

jinxed trait should be removed from this game IMO, it's just troll crap. modifying knockdown on heavy handed will make getting guns even more a pain in the ass. apparently guys who suggested lowering the knockdown rate haven't heard of the "in your face" perk.

5.
now to talk about items. hell, is it just me or BG and EW are incrediblky hard to find? hell, even certain small guns are now a pain in the arse to get. (10mm SMG, 14mm pistol, etc)
there's just no point in farming for miniguns and other hardcore shit because you'll just get raped by SD grenadier. just ain't worth it.
all the armor you find in encounters is made of cardboard, breaks down INCREDIBLY EASY.

hell there's so much crap to say, the bottom line is that if you wanna get more players make this game like it was before the wipe. before the wipe it was fairly balanced, right now it's a... joke.
and also STOP MAKING THIS GAME HARDER, because not everyone's got free 24 hours a day to hunt for BP's and do other useless and tedious shit.

6.
i'm not even gonna elaborate anything here since there's nothing to elaborate. nobody gives a crap about RP.

OXXON:
someone close this post now please!

Uftak:

--- Quote from: OXXON on March 12, 2012, 07:09:03 pm ---someone close this post now please!

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Then they will find another "place" to practise an art of hating.

Chrupek:

--- Quote from: Uftak on March 12, 2012, 07:51:58 pm ---Then they will find another "place" to practise an art of hating.

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Look at this. At first, its mostly complaining about actual issues... but when u have absolutely no feedback (or feedback like: "wasteland is harsh" "everything is intended, go get yourself outa here") you start rage really quick.

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