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Targeting CA with Laser, Sniper and a Minigun. Average values.
John Porno:
ok, tryin again. So when changing finesse is because of buffed helmets, why buff helmets then? By that you force every player to use more critperks, which overall results in less flexibility and less specialization, dumbing down the build system.
The 10% of the current helmet were enough to make plasma tanks unviable, which was one of the best builds last session imho. At least the most fun and effective to play out of the 20 different builds I had. Even with the current plasma rifle I would have made a new one to see how it does this season, but not with a 10% helmet. And surely not with a 20% helmet.
It's not about what perks are available, but what builds are viable. What you do here is nerfing snipers that already got nerfed needlessly.
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--- Quote from: Solar on March 01, 2012, 12:42:17 PM ---I was wondering if the whine had any basis in fact. As I've said several times, something can be balanced, but players perceptions cause it to dominate, if that turns out to be the case and we only see Laser snipers then it'll be changed.
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the question is if you intentionally buffed laser snipers or if the new stats for this session were just not tested enough. If you want to revert back to last sessions balance in that aspect, just match the eye dmg to that ov a sniper rifle, maybe make it soemthin like 5-10% bigger at most but not more than that.
T-888:
--- Quote from: Solar on March 01, 2012, 12:42:17 PM ---I was wondering if the whine had any basis in fact. As I've said several times, something can be balanced, but players perceptions cause it to dominate, if that turns out to be the case and we only see Laser snipers then it'll be changed.
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So after after all this , there's no fact behind it really ?
--- Quote from: Solar on March 01, 2012, 12:42:17 PM ---Its exactly the same as when I produced numbers (and then had to do actual tests to prove it) regarding the Avenger. Players perceived it to be too weak, so it wasn't used and then got a boost because of this - even though I was perfectly happy with the numbers and justification behind them :P
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When avenger was too weak ? Oh damn ... you don't mean last session when players where providing massive hyperboles for lsw being the ultimate weapon ? If that's true i remember that topic , that was ridiculous.
John Porno:
Just an idea, but how about you ask some members of big pvp gangs first about the subject, and not relying on forum psots by random people? I dont want to point fingers, but testing bursts on 5 and on 20 hex? Do devs rely on posts like these for their "community response"?
T-888:
Hell yeah , i was wondering about this too. I mean no offense but there are quite a lot of players who participate in these discussions who just have whatsoever no idea what their talking about.
Solar maybe you need actual testers , someone who can give reliable feedback ? :P ... factions who participate in organized PvP obviously will have potentially viable individuals that can provide better feedback than the usual loner who got squashed by a lazer rifle and now he comes to forum to unleash his fury. :)
Solar:
Heh, of course I ask pvp players ::) That doesn't mean those players agree with each other, just like new players disagree with each other.
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