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Targeting CA with Laser, Sniper and a Minigun. Average values.
John Porno:
ok, so after erasing the plasma tank from gameplay you want to erase the 2 sniper "classes" "dmg sniper" and "crippler" as well? way to go.
edit: and lets not forget the BG sneaker, who apparently was too OP last session
--- Quote from: T-888 on March 01, 2012, 12:18:12 PM ---Because he is buffing helmets. To even it out at the same time fineese , quite pointless if you ask me.
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So the final result is : NOTHING ecept that whole server has to remake their snipers. nice.
Solar:
--- Quote ---Because he is buffing helmets. To even it out at the same time fineese , quite pointless if you ask me.
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That's right between the eyes, which was very weak, hense the change.
Finesse ... well, its not used very often and currently is useful for very few builds. As for snipers being improved, other builds have been too.
John Porno:
if you want to buff rbte, make it ignore 75% lol.
Finesse still has its use if it still alter the crit tables as it seemed to do last session. It's just that now wiht the buffed dmg, everyone makes the dmg sniper first.
Actually, since it's so easy to just kill an enemy sniper, there's no use for crippling him. The best crippler would be a laser, but nobody really used all out laser crippler last session, so it would be kind of experimental and not a mainstream build. Doesnt mean finesse is useless.
aside from that, it would buff crit bursters as well.
T-888:
--- Quote from: Solar on March 01, 2012, 12:21:35 PM ---The initial purpose was simply to give a rough guideline for average damage for criticals vs a typical burst, because I was wondering about it one day, not meant to be a thorough disection of life, universe and everything ;)
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Seriously ? No offense but you posted all this and argued with people to prove your point only because you was wondering about it one day ? I don't think that's the case , sorry. I think you wanted to show people that lazer rifle doesn't need any nerfing because it's average damage is okaish in head , what sounds completely ridiculous to me.
This whole thing was somehow presented by many players that lazer rifle is to powerful for it's damage potential , range capabilities and it's availability and it's buff was unnecessary. That's why you made this topic.
--- Quote from: Solar on March 01, 2012, 12:26:48 PM ---That's right between the eyes, which was very weak, hense the change.
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Hmm ? 50% RBTE , buffed fineese and buffed helmets crit chance modifier , this all fits together but in the end is quite useless. Do the math.
Solar:
I was wondering if the whine had any basis in fact. As I've said several times, something can be balanced, but players perceptions cause it to dominate, if that turns out to be the case and we only see Laser snipers then it'll be changed.
Its exactly the same as when I produced numbers (and then had to do actual tests to prove it) regarding the Avenger. Players perceived it to be too weak, so it wasn't used and then got a boost because of this - even though I was perfectly happy with the numbers and justification behind them :P
--- Quote ---Finesse still has its use if it still alter the crit tables as it seemed to do last session.
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Its never done that.
--- Quote ---Benefit +10% to Critical Chance
Penalty +30% to your targets' DR
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Only difference to that is some affect on armour's crit mod, off the top of my head it was -25%, but it was a small effect.
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