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Targeting CA with Laser, Sniper and a Minigun. Average values.
Solar:
--- Quote ---This session is OK for PvP but there is a lot that needs to be reworked. And its not like this is a great big huge ground breaking information that a player couldn't figure out themselves. BIG INFORMATION WHOA A DEVELOPER DID SOME MATH THAT AN 8 YEAR OLD CAN DO! I would have called this great information if the algebraic formula in regards to causing critical was posted or the critical table on players was posted.
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These averages are worked out factoring in Bypasses and damage increases from criticals, which players don't know.
--- Quote ---Also no test on plasma, ;\ plasma is a 30 ranged laser rifle now it does same damage as laser rifle as far as criticals go. Should have tested plasma I would have liked to see damage in comparison.
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62.75 Average for Plasma, discovered an error on the spreadsheet for Sniper Rifle - that average should be 51.72.
Laser Rifle 58.38
Sniper Rifle 51.72
Plasma 62.75
--- Quote ---But you know this information is limited and not every detailed does not take into consideration what the build was other than the mini-gun was calcuated with brd perks? Is this on average out of 10 shots 100 shots 5 shots? Combat armor and no toughness is only thing we know about these averages.
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--- Quote ---Minigun: The 3 different BRD, BRoF
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These are calculated averages - these are the results you'd get over many shots.
--- Quote ---I mean sure these are average perks all snipers have for a head/eye shooter build but what is the luck and perception of the character and chance to hit max range? I would hope that this is calculated with 10 luck. Also finesse or no finesse? I'm assuming no finesse if average came out to be 50.
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10 luck, no finesse. Presuming all shots hit, so Pe doesn't matter.
--- Quote ---My question is... is this with target shots on sniper or just single shot to a blue suit?
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Guy in CA, as the title suggests ;) ... but aimed to the head.
With Finesse it gives:
Laser Rifle 65.28
Sniper Rifle 57.79
Plasma 69.74
So Finesse is about an 11-14% increase in damage ... and better crit effects on top of course.
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I tested LSW, Minigun (jhp and ap ammo), avenger minigun (both ammo), m60. Bursting from 20 hexes and then from 5 hexes. The best damage does m60. I can make a video if you want to see
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Hard to say much without your build and what you're firing at. I'd be surprised if the Avenger wasn't coming out the winner vs everything. 20 hexes or 5 makes no difference if you have enough skill to hit, as said. The only difference is 1 hex and more than 1 hex.
Vandal:
--- Quote from: Solar on February 19, 2012, 12:34:50 PM ---Hard to say much without your build and what you're firing at. I'd be surprised if the Avenger wasn't coming out the winner vs everything. 20 hexes or 5 makes no difference if you have enough skill to hit, as said. The only difference is 1 hex and more than 1 hex.
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My build 220% skill and 1 x bonus ranged damage. Was firing at my friend who has the same build as I so he had 2x toughness and leather armor mk2. Minigun and LSW sucked and avenger had something better damage but m60 was the best.
Solar:
Those conditions give:
Minigun JHP 27
Minigun AP 59.9
m60 70.707
Avenger JHP 32.4
Avenger AP 71.9
With only 1 BRD it favours the m60 too, add more levels and Miniguns gain more
ToxiCAVE:
--- Quote from: Vandal on February 19, 2012, 07:40:51 AM ---For Solar
I tested LSW, Minigun (jhp and ap ammo), avenger minigun (both ammo), m60. Bursting from 20 hexes and then from 5 hexes. The best damage does m60. I can make a video if you want to see
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avenger with 3xbrd
Solar:
With all the BRD its (Still against LA II with 2 Toughness):
Minigun JHP 40.5
Minigun AP 89.9
m60 85.14
Avenger JHP 45.9
Avenger AP 101.9
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