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new anti-fast relog, sleepy characters after login
chocolate_chip_cookies:
--- Quote from: JovankaB on February 16, 2012, 10:16:46 PM ---You login and you jump right into fights the same minute?
You can do plenty of other things first 120 seconds. Also, I was considering:
And about your previous post, no, I don't know what you meant.
You posted fallacious argument and called it appeal to logic. Your second post is much better, thanks.
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I might not login and jump right into fights every time, but whenever I want to do that I want to be able to do that.
It will get on my nerves if whenever I want to take a 5 min break from the game and I would log back in to have to wait.
Well my dear Jovanka, if you really are dull enough not to understand what I meant then I will explain.
I take it that the developers don't make the game to play it themselves. So I also take it that the developers are developing this game for the fonline 2238 community of players. If they are making it for the players then I assume that they want the players to be happy with the game. If majority of the players are against the change then clearly the majority will be unhappy with the change. If the developers want the players to be happy with the game then it is safe to assume that the developers do not want the players to be unhappy with the feature.
And from my point of view, that makes your suggestion stupid.
Then you post that "Sorry but "GMs hate playerbase" "everyone will quit" is appeal to emotion not valid points in discussion..."
Since you are such a linguistics nazi I want to point out that it is not pathos, it is logos. Appeals to logic.
JovankaB:
--- Quote ---If majority of the players are against the change then clearly the majority will be unhappy with the change.
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I see 2 problems here:
1. You call maybe 5 people who spoke here clearly against it "majority of the players".
2. You jump to conclusion that they will hate something when they try it just because they though it was bad idea.
Let's consider avv's version - 120 seconds, with less combat abilities on relog.
It's far, far less restrictive than 10 minute relog timeout that was before and much more effective at what it was supposed to protect against.
And if you don't want game to restrict you, maybe devs should add fly ability for everyone. Or teleportation. :P ;)
Marko:
I love JovankaB, just for the record.
Also for the record: i totally oppose this idea.
The ability we have this new season to quickly switch characters with no delay is a huge improvement that benefits everyone. When i get PK'd in the mine, i now at least have a chance to switch to my fighter and go deal some justice. That PK knows he might need to move on or face my fighter very soon. If i cannot find him, i switch back to my miner and pick up where i left off working in the mine.
If i have to wait again like last season, it is NO disadvantage to the PK - only disadvantage to me. The more time it takes to play this game, the less people will play it.
Sarakin:
I really like this idea, because like was stated several times, fast relogging back to fight is major problem this season. If you tweak it correctly, it would hinder only pvp apes and other players can do whatever they did.
Reducing combat skills and/or some SPECIAL stat is way to go.
@Marko - Youre complaining because your pure miner cant fight back. If you make such chars, you should face consequences.
@Chocolate_Chip_Cookies - You know, not everything that makes players happy should be added into the game. Id be happy to have free APAs, but would it make the game better ?
chocolate_chip_cookies:
--- Quote from: Sarakin on February 17, 2012, 02:06:11 AM ---@Chocolate_Chip_Cookies - You know, not everything that makes players happy should be added into the game. Id be happy to have free APAs, but would it make the game better ?
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But you see the thing about majority is that it will always regulate itself. If someone wants to implement free APAs, the majority will be against it. Because no one really wants chaos and unbalance and the majority will vote for what's fair.
At least that's what I believe. Think about it.
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