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new anti-fast relog, sleepy characters after login
BenKain:
No its not. I don't care if I get legitimately PKed in an unguarded town or mine. Sure, that's fine, he can have my stuff, he beat me fair and square. I can wait one minute, and I'll take whatever spawn area, and I'll move on.
It was likely this revenge shtick that started the whole, FR-altswarm shit in the first place.
Fast-relog is an exploit that should be returned to a bannable offence. I totally understand why its almost impossible to track, so the "Sleepy Character" is a perfect fix in my opinion.
Marko:
Ugh. Dude you have this all wrong (again). Fast Relog means simply you don't have to wait 3 minutes when you log out of one guy and want to switch to another. It's not an exploit. It's the developers dropping an irritant from last season. They used that delay to catch people multi-logging, which is an exploit. The fact they dropped the delay was not the addition of an exploit; it was simply the removal of an irritation that caused delays for all players. We players gave it a name: Fast Relog. It really should be called "No More Login Delay".
So it's not an exploit. Nor do i use it as an exploit. I use it to find blueprints solo. I use it to help people buy bases when there's not enough friends online atm. I can also use it to deal justice (not revenge) to a PK whose over-brutal play style suppresses the game.
If you want to put this in terms of "fair and square" though, then apply it equally to the Reno example and what do you get? That guy got killed "fair and square" and he should move on (or switch to a fighter and go deal some justice maybe himself). Just moving on and not fighting tyranny is the lazy way.
Also for the record: seeking justice or revenge either one, is NOT how the alt-swarm thing started. The alt-swarm thing started when PvP "apes" realized how not having the login delay changed things: they could more quickly return to a battle and thus extend the battle and get more game play out of their PvP sessions. It works fine for some apes, but other apes hate it.
But like i said, you and i haven't spent much time in that arena yet, so the PvP side of this argument is not even our turf [yet]. For any miner, FR is a good thing that gives an option we did not have last season.
BenKain:
My biggest point is, you don't need alts to solo anything. Just build a good character.
JovankaB:
--- Quote from: Marko on April 03, 2012, 11:20:46 AM ---Ugh. Dude you have this all wrong (again). Fast Relog means simply you don't have to wait 3 minutes when you log out of one guy and want to switch to another
--- End quote ---
And my idea wouldn't prevent you from switching from one character to another. Just not for the purpose of pwning a character who 10 seconds earlier won a fair fight against you.
Marko:
Okay i see the idea has changed a bit. It's that "who 10 seconds earlier won a fair fight against you" part on which i will now focus..
The Level 24 energy sniper who melted my naked blue Level 3 miner into goo with one shot and no warning while i worked...did he just beat me in a fair fight? No and i should be able to get him and deal some justice. I believe your idea, even updated, would prevent me from dealing that justice. Am i wrong when i say the miner-hating murderers could once again get away with it over and over like last year?
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