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Author Topic: Is this normal/intended?  (Read 10264 times)

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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2012, 11:57:15 pm »

Actually he did. He brought up that you should listen to players because they are testers and know from first hand experience.
And blame it on whatever you want to but you banned the man because he does not see eye to eye with you.

No, he was banned for posting like a complete retard. People can disagree with me all they want, I've said several times the so much changed that balance was a pin in the map exercise which needed changing based on player experience. If I didn't want feedback I wouldn't bother reading these threads at all  :-\

If they can make a valid point then they can affect a change, if they can't then at least they've been listened to.

I read conflicting reports about weapons all the time, balance is an opinion, not fact.

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I really don't get it, I'm taking the time to bother replying to you and people come back with moronic trolling posts. Here's a nice little warning, just to help you out. Post in a constructive manner and post something valuable and that's good, continue trolling me and I will ban you, my patience is wearing very thin.

I can promise you I won't be being trolled out of balance threads, what will happen is people will be taking holidays the forum if they can't post in a reasonable manner. Simple.

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As a player, I don't find laser rifle OP (not really more than DKS), and I insist that reducing bypasses chance for all table would make crit, in general, less "uberdeadly". Btw, I noticed that psycho and jet is only +/-5DR instead of 15, is that bug or intended?

Bug, nothing on the drugs should have changed.

I think a lot of the bypass moaning is coming from players now dumping their luck stat, its  pretty much the same old table.
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2012, 12:39:36 am »

No, he was banned for posting like a complete retard. People can disagree with me all they want, I've said several times the so much changed that balance was a pin in the map exercise which needed changing based on player experience. If I didn't want feedback I wouldn't bother reading these threads at all  :-\
If they can make a valid point then they can affect a change, if they can't then at least they've been listened to.
I can promise you I won't be being trolled out of balance threads, what will happen is people will be taking holidays the forum if they can't post in a reasonable manner. Simple.
I get it but I feel like the way you treated him was pretty degrading. You demonstrated your power over him by banning him and also dismissed anything he said with "No, no he didn't." He was obviously very frustrated and just wanted to make a point.
It was very elitist of you. To me you're not any better than him nor is your opinion more important because developers need players just as players need developers.
And "retard" is a very strong word. I personally know very smart and capable people who suffer from mental or physical disorders. I really urge everyone against using it in their vocabulary.
Solar, I think you overreacted and should unban the guy. A warning and edit of his post would have been enough and maybe he would come back with a noteworthy argument.
And maybe think about your ways more.
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #47 on: February 17, 2012, 01:02:21 am »

Solar, he did mention important things, although in a douchy way.

What range your weapon has and how often you reload are very important. When you are trying to get in range, when you are reloading, when you are doing anything other than shooting within your opponents sight and range you are eating shots instead.

Also, I just got no bypass critted to the head with BA by a laser or plasma rifle for over 200 damage and it wasn't an instakill.
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2012, 03:47:56 am »

Also, I just got no bypass critted to the head with BA by a laser or plasma rifle for over 200 damage and it wasn't an instakill.
Being hit bit a laser for 200 without bypass seem impossible to me.
Anyway about insta kills, could they finally be removed once and for all? I mean, hell, we ALL know it's a shitty thing, it doesn't have it's place in multiplayer game, and yet, after all this time, it's still there. It doesn't matter if it's one time on two hundreds, it's still bullshit.
(yes, I've just been insta killed during a fight where I was having fun until this, but that instant at 240 from a fucking unarmed is a good reason to complain !)
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2012, 07:55:41 am »

Being hit bit a laser for 200 without bypass seem impossible to me.
Anyway about insta kills, could they finally be removed once and for all? I mean, hell, we ALL know it's a shitty thing, it doesn't have it's place in multiplayer game, and yet, after all this time, it's still there. It doesn't matter if it's one time on two hundreds, it's still bullshit.

Agreed here. It doesn't matter how rare those instas are because they simply suck and nobody's gonna miss them once they are gone.
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2012, 07:59:32 am »

I would. I like some rare instakills, because it makes attacking other, even very weak players at least a little bit risky.
It's not only a matter of simple calculation "I have bigger gun so I will win".
« Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 08:20:49 am by JovankaB »
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2012, 08:01:43 am »

Bug, nothing on the drugs should have changed.

I like this bug.
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« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2012, 08:09:03 am »

I would. I like some rare instakills, because it makes attacking other, even very weak players at least a little bit risky.
It's not only a matter of simple calculation "I have bigger gun so I will win".

Actually those weak players who supposedly use instas as self defense hardly benefit from it. Crit-spewing trolls who keep coming back again and again and again benefit from it most. Basically anything that makes weak bluesuits more powerful, helps trolls more.
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2012, 08:13:47 am »

If nothing on drugs should be changed then why buffout give +1 endure instead of 2 now D:?
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« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2012, 09:09:14 am »

If nothing on drugs should be changed then why buffout give +1 endure instead of 2 now D:?
Same with jet, it is not working propertly. Last session when you have 0 DR and take jet you gain -15DR, and now it decrease DR only if you have it from(psyho,toughness)
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2012, 09:10:50 am »

Cookie, understand this. You are all here playing our hobby. We are not here making your game.

If you can not post in a civil way you'll be gone, that's all there is to it. He's lucky it was only 2 weeks.


its pretty easy to work out the max damage you can do without a bypass, try it :p

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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2012, 10:40:11 am »

Max is just over 100 without a bypass to CA from a plasma rifle by the way.
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2012, 11:45:32 am »

Into brand new but nobody have brand new Ca's ;)

and can u anserw about drugs?
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2012, 12:25:26 pm »

...but nobody have brand new Ca's ;)
Wrong, lots of people have it ;>
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Re: Is this normal/intended?
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2012, 12:39:56 pm »

Sure, if its degraded down to bluesuit level you're going to suffer, but then who cares about bypassing nothing in that case? ;)

I need to check if the change to the way deterioration affects armour has been done actually.

Drugs, no idea why they'd be changed, they shouldn't be.
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